The UK Labour Party

Started by lurganblue, November 04, 2025, 11:59:47 AM

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Armagh18

He was far from perfect but a million times better than Starmer or any of the Tory twats that were in power since. He didn't help himself but the disgraceful media played a huge part too.

Unfortunately for Corbyn he's a decent person which ultimately doesn't get you elected.

seafoid

Corbyn was taken out by a combination of Zionistsvand neoliberals.


https://www.declassifieduk.org/morgan-mcsweeney-plot-without-precedent-in-labour-history/
It is the right who have behaved like a ruthless Trotskyist sect.
The first sentence of the first chapter states Jeremy Corbyn was destroyed by a "conspiracy." Thereafter the book is an exposé of what the authors (who work for the Times and Sunday Times) call "the great deception .... a plot without precedent in Labour history."
The astonishing story Get In tells would probably lead to a left wing member of the party being suspended for peddling antisemitic conspiracy theories if they articulated the bare outlines in a speech.
It revolves almost entirely around one man, Morgan McSweeney, the founder of Labour Together, the organisation that propelled Starmer to power, and now his Chief of Staff.
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Labour Together
The bald facts, in Pogrund and Maguire's telling, are these.
Established in 2015, Labour Together claimed it existed to bring different parts of the party together.
In fact it was a ruthless, factional grouping which aimed, the authors say, "to use any means necessary to delegitimise and destroy" Jeremy Corbyn, "to ensure he lost badly" and restore the right to power.
"The imperative: don't get caught."
The key weapon they alighted on was allegations of antisemitism.
Labour Together aimed, McSweeney wrote in an early confidential strategy paper, to cultivate "seemingly independent voices to generate and share content to build up a political narrative and challenge fake news and political extremism."
One of these was the campaign group Stop Funding Fake News (SFFN), which later morphed into the Centre for Countering Digital Hate.
One of its first targets was The Canary, a pro-Corbyn website that was achieving 8.5 million hits a month.
Working closely with the anti-Corbyn Jewish Labour Movement, the book says McSweeney secretly recruited Countdown co-presenter Rachel Riley to front a campaign targeting The Canary's advertisers with claims the outlet was antisemitic.
The Canary was later cleared by the independent regulator Impress (a fact Pogrund and Maguire don't mention), but the damage was done. The Canary "went down from 22 staff to one member of staff within a few months of us targeting it," SFFN crowed.
"Bye bye Birdie!!!" tweeted Rachel Riley.
'Destroy Corbynism'
Simultaneously, McSweeney and SFFN devoted enormous resources to scouring huge pro-Corbyn Facebook groups for incriminating posts.
"McSweeney ensured the most disturbing examples found their way to the Sunday Times" where they were published on 1 April  2018 under the headline: "Exposed: Jeremy Corbyn's Hate Factory."

https://x.com/ejhchess/status/2022801347930714179
"McSweeney revelled in Corbyn's misery and did everything he could to exacerbate it", all the while posing as "smilingly compliant with Corbynism," the authors say he secretly organised hecklers to hound the Labour leader as he travelled the country.
The money to finance Labour Together came from hedge fund manager Martin Taylor and from Trevor Chinn, "a multi-millionaire Jewish philanthropist" who "had great concerns about the election of an outspoken opponent of the Jewish state as Labour leader."
This money was not declared, as required by law, to the Electoral Commission – an "oversight" that served Labour Together's "strategic interests".
"It kept the secret ... The result was that nobody caught [McSweeney] amassing the data he used to understand and destroy Corbynism."

seafoid

https://equalitytrust.org.uk/evidence-base/billionaire-britain-2025/
By 2023, the top 50 richest families in the UK held more wealth than the poorest half of the population, comprising over 34 million 

That is the system that Starmer is protecting.

BTW that 34 million would include a lot of people in the North.

bennydorano

Corbyn is and was too ideologically bound in a straight jacket of his own making to be a good Prime Minister.  Cuntish decisions have to be made on a daily basis, I don't think he could have done it effectively.

playwiththewind1st

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2rxddwykno

As is almost always the case with the left, unfortunately.....set up a new party & then organise a split right down the middle.

mouview

Lot of harsh words on Starmer here. He's by far the best of a bad lot, and is no enemy (or at least apatheist ) of this country. Only political leader that counts in the UK currently who wants to foster closer links with the EU.

tonto1888

Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2026, 12:11:50 PMhttps://equalitytrust.org.uk/evidence-base/billionaire-britain-2025/
By 2023, the top 50 richest families in the UK held more wealth than the poorest half of the population, comprising over 34 million

That is the system that Starmer is protecting.

BTW that 34 million would include a lot of people in the North.

the vast majority of people in the North I would say

seafoid

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 27, 2026, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2026, 12:11:50 PMhttps://equalitytrust.org.uk/evidence-base/billionaire-britain-2025/
By 2023, the top 50 richest families in the UK held more wealth than the poorest half of the population, comprising over 34 million

That is the system that Starmer is protecting.

BTW that 34 million would include a lot of people in the North.

the vast majority of people in the North I would say
https://www.ft.com/content/eb0c2d17-81b5-4741-a9fd-3f1dcbbfc8cc

 More than one in five Britons of working age are neither in work nor looking for a job.

Is it as bad in the North?


RedHand88

Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2026, 12:30:03 PMCorbyn is and was too ideologically bound in a straight jacket of his own making to be a good Prime Minister.  Cuntish decisions have to be made on a daily basis, I don't think he could have done it effectively.

I agree. Prime minister is almost always a centrist. Blair, Gordon, Cameron, Starmer. Broad appeal wins votes.

seafoid

Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2026, 12:30:03 PMCorbyn is and was too ideologically bound in a straight jacket of his own making to be a good Prime Minister.  Cuntish decisions have to be made on a daily basis, I don't think he could have done it effectively.

Economic growth in the UK has been 1% since 2009.The rich have all the money.
All UK prime ministers since Major have failed.


https://www.ft.com/content/20d6d434-0ae7-4305-b1c9-db1e26182931

The UK's plight needs to be put in the wider context of the history of economic growth and productivity in the big western economies since the end of the second world war. The period to the mid-1970s was a super-boom: trend annual growth in GDP per head was, for example, 4.9 per cent in Italy and 4 per cent in France from 1950 to 1974

Economic growth under socialism is higher. Corbyn is a socialist

Socialism is about people. The system we have now is about profit.
Bill Shankly led Liverpool to 3 league titles. He is remembered in the Shankly gates. He was a socialist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi5-V75v-6I
So were Matt Busby and Brian Clough.

tiempo

Corbyn was vilified as an antisemite for the correct pronunciation of Epstein, fair to say the elites had more to do with bringing Corbyn down than Corbyn

gallsman

Quote from: tiempo on February 27, 2026, 01:35:48 PMCorbyn was vilified as an antisemite for the correct pronunciation of Epstein, fair to say the elites had more to do with bringing Corbyn down than Corbyn

The "correct pronunciation" of Epstein is however he pronounced it himself, which given he was a) American and b) not Orthodox almost certainly didn't emphasise any "-sh" element of how the name might be pronounced in, for example, Israel.

Corbyn's decision to emphasize it was deliberate, needless and stupid.

Armagh18

Quote from: gallsman on February 27, 2026, 02:05:37 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 27, 2026, 01:35:48 PMCorbyn was vilified as an antisemite for the correct pronunciation of Epstein, fair to say the elites had more to do with bringing Corbyn down than Corbyn

The "correct pronunciation" of Epstein is however he pronounced it himself, which given he was a) American and b) not Orthodox almost certainly didn't emphasise any "-sh" element of how the name might be pronounced in, for example, Israel.

Corbyn's decision to emphasize it was deliberate, needless and stupid.
The correct pronunciation was dirty pedo bastard tbf :D

AustinPowers

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 27, 2026, 11:42:14 AMThere's a big shift to come yet in Uk politics. There is every chance reform will get in and that will be an absolute shit show.

It might  well deliver a  United Ireland though.

DaleCooper

Quote from: gallsman on February 27, 2026, 02:05:37 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 27, 2026, 01:35:48 PMCorbyn was vilified as an antisemite for the correct pronunciation of Epstein, fair to say the elites had more to do with bringing Corbyn down than Corbyn

The "correct pronunciation" of Epstein is however he pronounced it himself, which given he was a) American and b) not Orthodox almost certainly didn't emphasise any "-sh" element of how the name might be pronounced in, for example, Israel.

Corbyn's decision to emphasize it was deliberate, needless and stupid.


Corbyn or "Korban" in Hebrew meaning sacrifice or offering.

https://youtu.be/Ag3JJXCisMg?si=3lBwniXK0yBYkv-b