Premier League 2025-26

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trileacman

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Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.

Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs.  I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.

He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Good to put manners on players- you've signed a contract so honour it.

The man in the street has a contract too but is free, with a period of notice, to quit when he likes and take up employment elsewhere. The 3 years left on Isak's contract was to protect Newcastle as much as anything, they were locking him into a contract where they'd receive a transfer fee if he left. Ignoring the historical way that 95% of football transfers work is the act of an idiot.

Newcastle are busy trying to sign Wissa, who's refusing to play for Brentford to get a move.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

trileacman

What's up with the fire sale at Villa? Rogers supposedly for sale now too, he would be a big loss.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

gawa316

Feel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will

RedHand88

Quote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will

Chelsea and United sell alot of jerseys.

tiempo

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2025, 07:54:54 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will

Chelsea and United sell alot of jerseys.

Groundball is corrupt as f**k, can the Villa money men not just buy a million jerseys themselves and then spend those spends?

markl121

Quote from: tiempo on August 21, 2025, 08:24:56 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2025, 07:54:54 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will

Chelsea and United sell alot of jerseys.

Groundball is corrupt as f**k, can the Villa money men not just buy a million jerseys themselves and then spend those spends?
That's basically what man city do.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will

 ;D

Feel for Villa? Aye right ::)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

shark

Quote from: trileacman on August 21, 2025, 12:09:29 AMWhat's up with the fire sale at Villa? Rogers supposedly for sale now too, he would be a big loss.

There is no credible source claiming that. No chance they sell Rogers right now.

It's not PSR that's the problem for Villa. They managed to navigate that , and they have a really bad financial year (end of Gerrard's tenure) falling out of the 3 year window going forward.
Their problem is the UEFA SCR rules. Limit of 70% of revenue to be spent on wages. As Villa are now in Europe for the 3rd year in a row, they need to fall in line. As part of their punishment for last year, their "A-list" for the Europa league must have a £0 net spend (transfers and wages) compared to their A-List from Champions League last season. That's why they've paid off the likes of Coutinho and Dendonker , rather than loan them out again.

lurganblue

Quote from: shark on August 21, 2025, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: trileacman on August 21, 2025, 12:09:29 AMWhat's up with the fire sale at Villa? Rogers supposedly for sale now too, he would be a big loss.

There is no credible source claiming that. No chance they sell Rogers right now.

It's not PSR that's the problem for Villa. They managed to navigate that , and they have a really bad financial year (end of Gerrard's tenure) falling out of the 3 year window going forward.
Their problem is the UEFA SCR rules. Limit of 70% of revenue to be spent on wages. As Villa are now in Europe for the 3rd year in a row, they need to fall in line. As part of their punishment for last year, their "A-list" for the Europa league must have a £0 net spend (transfers and wages) compared to their A-List from Champions League last season. That's why they've paid off the likes of Coutinho and Dendonker , rather than loan them out again.

Agree with all of that. They've fairly shifted some amount of wages over the past couple of weeks. Mings and Digne even restructured their deals for less.  I'd say there is now room for a couple of loans in, but it certainly isn't the progress that the club would like to make.

Rogers isn't for sale, and certainly not for the fees Spurs like to present. 3m plus Onomah...

gawa316

Potter must be up there for the first to get the sack

quit yo jibbajabba

Reading this eve Nuno and the Forest eejit of an owner have fell out. And w ham like Nuno. Let's see what happens from here....


thewobbler

Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2025, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.

Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Any club who tried to implement such a policy would immediately lose everyone of their top players. It's not like clubs income is incentive-based, it's fairly predictable (match-day revenue, advertising, tv rights), so why would players expect their income to vary widely based on the teams performance?

Pretty much all of us, expect the self-employed, are on fixed salaries so your last sentence is just nonsense. Do you know a single employee who is on a salary where the majority is incentive-based?

Okay I'll put some more meat on this. Imagine being guaranteed a salary for a set duration, that is a multiple multiple (deliberately twice) of the average income, regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Average Joe doesn't get these terms.

NFL players don't get these terms, apart from generational talents. Rugby players don't these terms, apart from generational talents. Actually nobody on earth gets these terms... apart from footballers.

Defending the right for a lazy, mediocre footballer to be guaranteed  millions of pounds per year, honestly, if you think about it, is both vile and a sidestep from reality. Comparing the reality of the Everyman to it, and doing so with conviction? You're off your rocker.


Capt Pat

Jimmy Hill won the right for footballers to have a guaranteed wage back in the early 60s I think. Back then footballers did have the wage of an average joe. Obviously footballers wages have gone up a lot more than the average joe but they are still guaranteed.

markl121

Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2025, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2025, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.

Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Any club who tried to implement such a policy would immediately lose everyone of their top players. It's not like clubs income is incentive-based, it's fairly predictable (match-day revenue, advertising, tv rights), so why would players expect their income to vary widely based on the teams performance?

Pretty much all of us, expect the self-employed, are on fixed salaries so your last sentence is just nonsense. Do you know a single employee who is on a salary where the majority is incentive-based?

Okay I'll put some more meat on this. Imagine being guaranteed a salary for a set duration, that is a multiple multiple (deliberately twice) of the average income, regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Average Joe doesn't get these terms.

NFL players don't get these terms, apart from generational talents. Rugby players don't these terms, apart from generational talents. Actually nobody on earth gets these terms... apart from footballers.

Defending the right for a lazy, mediocre footballer to be guaranteed  millions of pounds per year, honestly, if you think about it, is both vile and a sidestep from reality. Comparing the reality of the Everyman to it, and doing so with conviction? You're off your rocker.


Footballers do have incentive based deals. Salahs old deal was heavily incentive based to the point he was earning 300k plus because of his bonuses

RedHand88