Premier League 2025-26

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Dire Ear

Is it just me, or is Clinton Morrison a complete bluffer??

thewobbler

Quote from: Dire Ear on August 19, 2025, 07:47:37 PMIs it just me, or is Clinton Morrison a complete bluffer??

Garth Crooks' natural heir. Bubnly, enthusiastic... but mainly a box ticking exercise

Easttyrone23

Quote from: thewobbler on August 16, 2025, 11:30:59 PM
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 10:46:41 PMCity won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.

1. Based on recent history there's a 6 out of 8 chance City have more minerals than Liverpool.

2. Based on same recent history there's a 0% chance that Liverpool will back up a winning season with another one.

3. Leagues are rarely won on head to head, but more on the domination of the 14-16 weaker teams. As city have proven for years.

All them bookmakers must be stupid to have Liverpool favourites when according to the wobbler there's a 0% chance of Liverpool it this year.

Recent history tells us that Liverpool are premier league champions and all of history tells us that that are the most successful club in the premier league.

thewobbler

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 20, 2025, 05:14:37 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 16, 2025, 11:30:59 PM
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 10:46:41 PMCity won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.

1. Based on recent history there's a 6 out of 8 chance City have more minerals than Liverpool.

2. Based on same recent history there's a 0% chance that Liverpool will back up a winning season with another one.

3. Leagues are rarely won on head to head, but more on the domination of the 14-16 weaker teams. As city have proven for years.

All them bookmakers must be stupid to have Liverpool favourites when according to the wobbler there's a 0% chance of Liverpool it this year.

Recent history tells us that Liverpool are premier league champions and all of history tells us that that are the most successful club in the premier league.


It's now over 40 years since Liverpool won consecutive titles.

Even though numbers don't lie and numbers don't attack, some of y'all just don't like how numbers work.


tiempo

Man City's blatant financial doping prevented Klopp going back to back, they may yet be awarded a title from that era if the charges against City are ever concluded, not that it'll be much cause for celebration at this stage, for me it's the reason Klopp packed it in

Armagh18

Good to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.

lurganblue

Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.

Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs.  I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.

He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.

Armagh18

Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.

Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs.  I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.

He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Good to put manners on players- you've signed a contract so honour it.

johnnycool

Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.

Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs.  I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.

He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.

He'll lose his 10% of the transfer fee if he does that allegedly.

thewobbler

How and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.

Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Saffrongael

Quote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.

Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Teaching ?
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

RedHand88

Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.

Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs.  I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.

He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Good to put manners on players- you've signed a contract so honour it.

Good way to ensure no serious player goes near you again too. I feel Newcastle are cutting their nose to spite their face. They could easily fill the gaps with the £110m that was offered but are going to end up with a massive asset on their books that they can't use, and will still be forced to sell in January or next summer for less.

markl121

lets be real here, players sign contracts to protect their value for the club. What we are increasingly seeing and will definitely see more after this, is players signing short term deals and leaving on frees, like trent Alexander Arnold. No-one will be singing a 5 year deal with Newcastle again without an attainable release clause in it. Suarez wanted out of liverpool years ago but signed a new deal with the promise of leaving the following year. The club got well paid for him and he got his move.

trileacman

No harm but there's a way of doing things privately and a way of embarrassing the club publicly and Newcastle have chosen the let's embarrass ourselves option. Compare their handling of this situation with Salah, VVD and Trent's contract negotiation were handled at Liverpool, nothing was released to the press pretty much until the deals were done or in Trent's case, the league was won and the news was confirmed that he was leaving.

What did Newcastle really think they could achieve by refusing his transfer? Liverpool bid a very good price, they need the money to ease their PSR situation and ignoring Isak's wish to make more money and win things was going to leave with them with an unhappy player giving them grief in the changing room. When they bought him from Sociedad he had 3 years left on the contract so they can't exactly cry foul now that Liverpool are doing to them what they've done several times every summer for the past 20 years. They now seem to have realised that they stand to lose more by paying Isak 200k a week to play with the reserves for the next 3 years and are now going to sell him. Could they not have seen that's the position they were going to end up in 3 weeks ago?

If a player gets an offer from another club and they're keen to move it's pretty simple, you either improve his contract or conditions or you sell him and get as much as possible for him.
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trileacman

Quote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.

Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.

Any club who tried to implement such a policy would immediately lose everyone of their top players. It's not like clubs income is incentive-based, it's fairly predictable (match-day revenue, advertising, tv rights), so why would players expect their income to vary widely based on the teams performance?

Pretty much all of us, expect the self-employed, are on fixed salaries so your last sentence is just nonsense. Do you know a single employee who is on a salary where the majority is incentive-based?
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014