Race for the ARAS 2025

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Hand of God

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Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2025, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 20, 2025, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:38:30 PMIts not an election issue.
Today is the anniversary of his murder.
The stock response (dictated from SF HQ?) is "those raising it don't care about the Quinn family".

You are obsessed with SF. So obsessed that you abhorrently travel down the path of exploiting the suffering and pain of a victims family to garner a bit of bad press.

You are reminiscent of the far right "activists" who use Aisling Murphy's death to stir up racism and hate against immigrants. That's the gutter level you have sank to and you seem utterly unrepentant about going down there which I think speaks volumes of your character.

"Shinners" this
"SF HQ" that

You seem to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist along with your hatred of northerners.
Shinners is common usage. Calling this evidence of *hatred of northerners * is puerile.
What does *hatred of northerners* have to do with the election? Answers on a postcard.

That post makes no sense. Shinners, SF HQ and Provologic were three terms that chap used in seperate posts, simply because he was called out for exploiting a victim and their family and attmepting to use their suffering and pain for cynical political point scoring.

It can only be a hatred of northeners that prompts such viciousness and crass remarks. There is nothing unique about SF in the context of Irish politics, they are one of many political parties who used the gun and violence to try and achieve their political objectives.

Rossfan clearly doesn't give a damn about Paul Quinn or Breege Quinn or their families. He has created a hierarchy of victims so he can sling mud. He is the equivalent of far right activists who latch on to the rape and murder victims so they can incite hatred on immigrant communities. It's abhorrent behaviour and it should be called out.

seafoid

Quote from: Hand of God on October 21, 2025, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2025, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 20, 2025, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:38:30 PMIts not an election issue.
Today is the anniversary of his murder.
The stock response (dictated from SF HQ?) is "those raising it don't care about the Quinn family".

You are obsessed with SF. So obsessed that you abhorrently travel down the path of exploiting the suffering and pain of a victims family to garner a bit of bad press.

You are reminiscent of the far right "activists" who use Aisling Murphy's death to stir up racism and hate against immigrants. That's the gutter level you have sank to and you seem utterly unrepentant about going down there which I think speaks volumes of your character.

"Shinners" this
"SF HQ" that

You seem to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist along with your hatred of northerners.
Shinners is common usage. Calling this evidence of *hatred of northerners * is puerile.
What does *hatred of northerners* have to do with the election? Answers on a postcard.

That post makes no sense. Shinners, SF HQ and Provologic were three terms that chap used in seperate posts, simply because he was called out for exploiting a victim and their family and attmepting to use their suffering and pain for cynical political point scoring.

It can only be a hatred of northeners that prompts such viciousness and crass remarks. There is nothing unique about SF in the context of Irish politics, they are one of many political parties who used the gun and violence to try and achieve their political objectives.

Rossfan clearly doesn't give a damn about Paul Quinn or Breege Quinn or their families. He has created a hierarchy of victims so he can sling mud. He is the equivalent of far right activists who latch on to the rape and murder victims so they can incite hatred on immigrant communities. It's abhorrent behaviour and it should be called out.
Quote from: Hand of God on October 21, 2025, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2025, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 20, 2025, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:38:30 PMIts not an election issue.
Today is the anniversary of his murder.
The stock response (dictated from SF HQ?) is "those raising it don't care about the Quinn family".

You are obsessed with SF. So obsessed that you abhorrently travel down the path of exploiting the suffering and pain of a victims family to garner a bit of bad press.

You are reminiscent of the far right "activists" who use Aisling Murphy's death to stir up racism and hate against immigrants. That's the gutter level you have sank to and you seem utterly unrepentant about going down there which I think speaks volumes of your character.

"Shinners" this
"SF HQ" that

You seem to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist along with your hatred of northerners.
Shinners is common usage. Calling this evidence of *hatred of northerners * is puerile.
What does *hatred of northerners* have to do with the election? Answers on a postcard.

That post makes no sense. Shinners, SF HQ and Provologic were three terms that chap used in seperate posts, simply because he was called out for exploiting a victim and their family and attmepting to use their suffering and pain for cynical political point scoring.

It can only be a hatred of northeners that prompts such viciousness and crass remarks. There is nothing unique about SF in the context of Irish politics, they are one of many political parties who used the gun and violence to try and achieve their political objectives.

Rossfan clearly doesn't give a damn about Paul Quinn or Breege Quinn or their families. He has created a hierarchy of victims so he can sling mud. He is the equivalent of far right activists who latch on to the rape and murder victims so they can incite hatred on immigrant communities. It's abhorrent behaviour and it should be called out.
Your last paragraph is pure narcissism. It's DARVO-
Deny,Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender.

You attack Rossfan but you deny it. You paint youself as the victim but you are the offender.

This has nothing to do with the election.

DaleCooper

Standard ProvoAnon behaviour. You see  they are the ones who actually care about Paul Quinn and the truth. They are deeply concerned about his family possibly being exploited by a shadow cabal of securocrats, free staters and the LOL.

Hand of God

Quote from: seafoid on October 21, 2025, 05:47:05 PMDeny,Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender.

You attack Rossfan but you deny it. You paint youself as the victim but you are the offender.

This has nothing to do with the election.

I didn't attack anyone. I called out abhorrent behaviour.

The fact that you get exercised when your buddy uses the same sort of tactics as the far right do. You don't care about Paul Quinn, his family and his suffering but you support someone who doesn't care about victims using them and exploiting them in a deeply cynical way for political point scoring.

It's wrong when the far right try and use rape and murder victims to incite hatred against immigrants.

It's wrong when you and your buddies create a hierarchy of victims to score political points in a crass and cynical manner.

That is not an attack in way at all. It's a statement on the crass way you and your buddy carry yourself and exploit the vulnerable for such nasty motives. Shame on you.

Hand of God

Quote from: DaleCooper on October 21, 2025, 05:50:20 PMStandard ProvoAnon behaviour. You see  they are the ones who actually care about Paul Quinn and the truth. They are deeply concerned about his family possibly being exploited by a shadow cabal of securocrats, free staters and the LOL.

Weird response. My issue is not that I pretend to care for the Quinn family or anything like that. There are plenty of people pretending to care for the Quinn family.

There is plenty of whataboutery I could engage right here right now. There are plenty of victims of murder, of sex crimes and everything else whose families fully believe members of FF and FG protected the perpetrators of. If I wanted to exploit those victims and pretend I cared about them to have a few digs at the Irish political establishment, I could.

I clearly have a lot more moral clarity than you in regard to those who have lost loved ones and suffer.

DaleCooper

Yes you have more moral clarity than anyone. Just like Shinners, the arbiters of moral virtue on the island of Ireland.

The pious concern trolling is always amusing.

Hand of God

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Quote from: DaleCooper on October 21, 2025, 06:52:31 PMYes you have more moral clarity than anyone. Just like Shinners, the arbiters of moral virtue on the island of Ireland.

The pious concern trolling is always amusing.

You're projecting a bit here.

I'm not showing pious concern for anyone. I'm calling out abhorrent behaviour. It's not  my business to defend the Quinn family, as I said more power to them to advocate for justice.

People like you are crass, that's not pious concern - that's a summation for your intentions here. You want to use the Quinn family to sling political mud - me pointing that out is not me showing concern for the Quinn family - its exposing you and others who have created a hierarchy of victims to sling mud.

When far right activists crusades behind a victim of murder or rape or assault and thus creates a hierarchy of victims. They do it for a cynical purpose, they don't do it out of concern for the victim or other victims - they do it for one simple reason - highlighting one specific case or cases that allow them to incite hate against immigrants

People like you don't care about the Quinn family, you just don't and it's crass and shameless beyond belief to exploit any victim in that way.

As I said I could easily start throwing all sorts of victims names here whose families and loves ones fully believe that justice was never served as FF or FG were protecting people that were implicated in killings, rapes and other serious crimes. By doing so I would be stooping to the levels you are, for what end - scoring political points.

You are exposing yourself as living in the gutter. It's the type of behaviour we have become accustomed to up here from unionists for years. Victims of state terrorism don't matter to them. The likes of Doug Beattie getting exercised at victims of paramilitaries but out praising the security forces, denying collusion and staying deadly silent as victims of state terrorism campaign for justice. That's the type of crass slonganeering you're engaging in now but embarrass yourself further.

There are some decent people here too and they will see you sinking to the gutter.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/10/21/fintan-otoole-catherine-connolly-is-going-to-win-heather-humphreys-needs-to-be-a-better-loser/

That system only works if lawyers separate their personal from their professional instincts. No decent human being would not be revolted by, for example, a man who has admitted to multiple sexual offences against children. But no professional barrister should deny that man the opportunity to plead his case.

Humphreys surely knows that this crucial principle is currently being assaulted by Donald Trump in the US. He has gone after one law firm for "representing failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton", another for assisting special counsel Jack Smith in his investigations of Trump's attempted coup, two others for their association with Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 campaign and a fourth for representing the voting machines company Dominion in its successful law suit against Fox News.

Equally, one of the nastiest aspects of the immigration debate in Britain is the vilification of lawyers for representing migrants and asylum seekers. The Conservatives, while in government, spread hysteria about "an activist blob of left-wing lawyers" as the villains of the "small boats" scare. Unsurprisingly, this rhetoric has fuelled physical attacks, including fire-bombings of law offices.

In this atmosphere, Humphreys surely knows that her cheap shot at Connolly comes with a very heavy price tag – it destroys Fine Gael's historic claim to be the party of law and order. There can be neither law nor order if solicitors and barristers decide only to work for good people and nice companies. Fine Gael, a lawyer-saturated party, understands this perfectly well, yet can't resist the infantile urge to take its big black marker to the face of the justice system.

Connolly is going to be our next president and it is in the interests of all citizens that she be allowed to ascend into that office with grace and dignity. The governing parties need to reflect long and hard on why they have been unable to ever look like winning this election. Humphreys should start that process by not being such a bad loser.

DaleCooper

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He was a fair bit older than me so it was very striking to me. Older generations would say "ah well he must have done something bad to deserve that" etc etc.

The sheer levels of cowardice involved by the hard men. Pathetic if nothing else. What's that quote about power and corruption?

The same crew will whinge endlessly about the abuse in the Catholic church, oblivious that the exact same dynamics are at play. Brainwashed loyalists.

There is something visceral and sickening about the Quinn murder that couldn't be abstracted away as war or "a uniform". That's why people ,even die hard Republicans were outraged. Not because of point scoring but because the defenders of the people did this to one of their own.

Anyway sorry to add to the distraction from the main topic. Connolly a cert?

Hand of God

Quote from: DaleCooper on October 21, 2025, 08:10:09 PMHe was a fair bit older than me so it was very striking to me. Older generations would say "ah well he must have done something bad to deserve that" etc etc.

The sheer levels of cowardice involved by the hard men. Pathetic if nothing else. What's that quote about power and corruption?

The same crew will whinge endlessly about the abuse in the Catholic church, oblivious that the exact same dynamics are at play. Brainwashed loyalists.

There is something visceral and sickening about the Quinn murder that couldn't be abstracted away as war or "a uniform". That's why people ,even die hard Republicans were outraged. Not because of point scoring but because the defenders of the people did this to one of their own.

Anyway sorry to add to the distraction from the main topic. Connolly a cert?

So you have created a hierarchy of victims.

It was a savage murder, it was thuggery, it was grotesque violence. That doesn't make it unique up north. Nobody will deny that. Ross Fan on three occasions alleged that people were justifying the murder here. Three times he was asked where that been said. He dodged it on three occasions waffling on about shinners, SF HQ and Provologic. You think he is sincere about wanting justice for the Quinn family? You seriously in believe that.

You think Micheal Martin who goes to meet Breege Quinn on the eve on an election and then drops her like a hot plate after it is sincere in wanting justice for Paul Quinn? This is a guy who said on live TV that the Provos were to blame for The Troubles with any equivocation. You don't think his motivations are cynical?



Hand of God

Heather Humphreys unable to answer any question.

Wildweasel74

Talking about foxes, who the f**k makes these questions up? Plus interviewers doing nothing but interrupt.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 21, 2025, 10:13:38 PMTalking about foxes, who the f**k makes these questions up?

And Heather is poor at even answering that question.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18


Armagh18

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 21, 2025, 10:13:38 PMTalking about foxes, who the f**k makes these questions up? Plus interviewers doing nothing but interrupt.
Theres plenty of doses worried about the poor wee fox lol.