Tailteann Cup 2025

Started by Cunny Funt, April 23, 2025, 01:13:12 PM

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Blowitupref

Finalists and where they finished in league that year

2024 -  Down 1st in Div 3  Laois  1st in Div 4

2023 -  Meath 6th in Div 2  Down 3rd in Div 3

2022 -  Westmeath 3rd in Div 3 and  Cavan 1st in Div 4

Instead of a need for 3rd tier perhaps leave the Tailteann Cup to Div 3 teams minus the two promoted teams and  the 8 Div 4 teams plus New York?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

LarryStiles

Louth will be favourites for this .

Fogarty


LarryStiles

Quote from: Fogarty on April 27, 2025, 08:41:30 PM
Quote from: LarryStiles on April 27, 2025, 09:12:09 AMLouth will be favourites for this .
Oh dear.

Kildare  made a dung in the bed. They walk the Tailteann and will Kerry will for Sam McGuire.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Blowitupref on April 24, 2025, 08:45:29 PMFinalists and where they finished in league that year

2024 -  Down 1st in Div 3  Laois  1st in Div 4

2023 -  Meath 6th in Div 2  Down 3rd in Div 3

2022 -  Westmeath 3rd in Div 3 and  Cavan 1st in Div 4

Instead of a need for 3rd tier perhaps leave the Tailteann Cup to Div 3 teams minus the two promoted teams and  the 8 Div 4 teams plus New York?

In my opinion the Tailteann Cup should be based on last year's league standings not this year.

This way you know what competition you're playing that given year you can set targets and it's not a disappointment for likes of Kildare when they'd have been expecting to play Sam Maguire this year

Captain Scarlet

I'm from Kildare and I disagree. That was a proper championship game v Louth with real jeopardy yesterday.

If you are good enough you are in Sam.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on April 28, 2025, 10:00:54 AMI'm from Kildare and I disagree. That was a proper championship game v Louth with real jeopardy yesterday.

If you are good enough you are in Sam.

It still would have had similar jeopardy if it effected next years championship status though.

In club football you know what grade of championship you are in at the start of the year. In soccer you know if your going to be in the Champions league or Europa league or Conference.

Same in Rugby.

I think the Tailteann Cup is suffering because of this.

Laois Rising

The Tailteann Cup has a shelf-life in it's current guise. If we have a couple of years in a row of winners winning the competition who aren't genuinely delighted to win it then it is going to lose traction fast. Down last year barely celebrated the win. Kildare gave a typical Kildare performance yesterday and didn't show the clinicality or confidence required to win a game they should have won. They will probably win the Tailteann Cup but it won't mean too much to them bar being a stepping stone to getting back into the Sam Maguire mix for next year. Of course publicly the management team will say all the right things but in reality its not a competition that's going to excite the Kildare supporters or players. I fear for the future for the Tailteann Cup if this scenario keeps repeating itself. Hopefully the GAA will work to a three tier championship-Senior, Intermediate and Junior. All of the teams are then competing more to their level. Have a 10, 12, 12 split and remove the league positions and championship connection. You could have the Junior Final before one All-Ireland semi-final and the Intermediate before the other All-Ireland semi-final. Alternatively, have an All-Ireland Finals weekend, Junior and Intermediate Finals on the Saturday and the All-Ireland Final the Sunday.   

tiempo

Quote from: Laois Rising on April 28, 2025, 11:55:26 AMThe Tailteann Cup has a shelf-life in it's current guise. If we have a couple of years in a row of winners winning the competition who aren't genuinely delighted to win it then it is going to lose traction fast. Down last year barely celebrated the win. Kildare gave a typical Kildare performance yesterday and didn't show the clinicality or confidence required to win a game they should have won. They will probably win the Tailteann Cup but it won't mean too much to them bar being a stepping stone to getting back into the Sam Maguire mix for next year. Of course publicly the management team will say all the right things but in reality its not a competition that's going to excite the Kildare supporters or players. I fear for the future for the Tailteann Cup if this scenario keeps repeating itself. Hopefully the GAA will work to a three tier championship-Senior, Intermediate and Junior. All of the teams are then competing more to their level. Have a 10, 12, 12 split and remove the league positions and championship connection. You could have the Junior Final before one All-Ireland semi-final and the Intermediate before the other All-Ireland semi-final. Alternatively, have an All-Ireland Finals weekend, Junior and Intermediate Finals on the Saturday and the All-Ireland Final the Sunday.   

The 3 tier All-Ireland football is already in place, Kilkenny and New York being the last 2 Junior winners, and that final is plated before an All-Ireland semi-final

What I think might be better is 4 tiers, where the KK/overseas competition is Junior-Novice, though I don't think anyone realistically expects promotion/relegation between the current tier 2/tier 3, or future tier 3/tier 4

At the end of the day anyone who thinks they are too good for Tailteann and don't target/celebrate it appropriately probably won't last too long at Sam. Someone has to play Tier 2, proud counties like Kildare and Down might not like it but tough, get over it

DownFanatic

We are in an era of constant flux in the GAA at the moment but I'd near guarantee that we will we have a three tier competition in place within the next 3/4 years.

Rossfan

HQ said last year there was " no appetite " among the Counties for a 3 tier system.
That was during the Jarlath Jeopardy campaign.
Maybe 2 or 3 years of being knocked out in Tailteann Round 2B might might bring on an appetite..
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

imtommygunn

I don't think Kildare would be bankers to win it this year at all.

Are Westmeath in it? If Offaly are in it they'll give anyone their fill of it assuming they keep their players at it.

Honda Royal

When Westmeath won it the first year it was a big deal for them because of a historic lack of success.
The other winners since then would have been embarrassed to have ended up there in the first place.

rodney trotter

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2025, 02:46:48 PMI don't think Kildare would be bankers to win it this year at all.

Are Westmeath in it? If Offaly are in it they'll give anyone their fill of it assuming they keep their players at it.

A few teams will be in the mix. Sligo should be thereabouts. Antrim  got to the semis the last couple of years. Conor Love could inspire Fermanagh.

Kildare,Offaly and Westmeath the main teams but its open enough. Wicklow put up a good performance against Dublin.

Blowitupref

Odds to win the Tailteann Cup should be a slight change after the draw on Wednesday.

Westmeath 5/2
Offaly 7/2
Kildare 3/1
Fermanagh 15/2
Sligo 15/2
Laois 13/1
Antrim 25/1
Limerick 33/1
Wexford 40/1
Wicklow 50/1
Longford 66/1
Tipperary 66/1
Carlow 88/1
London 100/1
Leitrim 100/1
New York 250/1
Waterford 250/1
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose