Ulster Championship 2025

[SpeculativeEffort]

I'd get rid of the arc completely too. It shouldn't have been brought in at all.

The rules should have been changed incrementally rather than a raft of changes.

Its impossible to figure out what impact each rule has when all applied together.

It's a mess.

1-34 in a cship match and not a hand laid on anybody. Is this what we want?

[Ethan Tremblay]

I'd get rid of the arc completely too. It shouldn't have been brought in at all.

The rules should have been changed incrementally rather than a raft of changes.

Its impossible to figure out what impact each rule has when all applied together.

It's a mess.

1-34 in a cship match and not a hand laid on anybody. Is this what we want?

Agree with all of this.  Too hard to distinguish what has actually benefited the game.  Too much came in to fast. 

[Armamike]

I'd get rid of the arc completely too. It shouldn't have been brought in at all.

The rules should have been changed incrementally rather than a raft of changes.

Its impossible to figure out what impact each rule has when all applied together.

It's a mess.

1-34 in a cship match and not a hand laid on anybody. Is this what we want?

Nope.  Want to see scores more hard earned.  We've gone from one extreme to another.

[AustinPowers]

This handing the  ball back is nonsense. Just set it on the ground  would have been  sufficient .

The  more I see of matches, the  worse the game looks

Jim Gavin and  his cronies have a lot to answer for.

[Rossfan]

Aw lads just give up the whining.
We're not going back to 15 behind the ball boring sh1te.

[Captain Obvious]

I'd get rid of the arc completely too. It shouldn't have been brought in at all.

The rules should have been changed incrementally rather than a raft of changes.

Its impossible to figure out what impact each rule has when all applied together.

It's a mess.

1-34 in a cship match and not a hand laid on anybody. Is this what we want?

Nope.  Want to see scores more hard earned.  We've gone from one extreme to another.

Absolutely however the penny didn't seem to drop with any in the FRC that a good game also includes good defending with hard earned scores. 

[twohands!!!]

Aw lads just give up the whining.
We're not going back to 15 behind the ball boring sh1te.

Some on here are in utter denail about the feedback the FRC has received on these rules changes.

Anyone who thinks there is even a remote possibility of any regression back to anything like the old rules is clearly miles out of touch with the majority of the organisation.

[Spiderlegs]

I'd get rid of the arc completely too. It shouldn't have been brought in at all.

The rules should have been changed incrementally rather than a raft of changes.

Its impossible to figure out what impact each rule has when all applied together.

It's a mess.

1-34 in a cship match and not a hand laid on anybody. Is this what we want?

Not so sure about the hand not laid bit. Antrim laid a right few hands on Armagh player's heads and faces   

However, for the last few years gaelic football fans in general have bought into excessively criticizing their own sport, romanticising over the 70s/80s/90s (which is painfully hard to watch) all while being sucked in by the media love-in with hurling that convinced them that a score every 30 seconds from 90+ yards is a good thing.

When this accumulates for long enough the GAA are forced to act and so we got the FRC. I'm mostly in favour of the rules but ridiculously high scoring is genuinely not a good thing in my opinion.

[Spiderlegs]

Aw lads just give up the whining.
We're not going back to 15 behind the ball boring sh1te.

Some on here are in utter denail about the feedback the FRC has received on these rules changes.

Anyone who thinks there is even a remote possibility of any regression back to anything like the old rules is clearly miles out of touch with the majority of the organisation.

Agreed.

My exact position is this - I wouldn't have made any of these changes, I would have left it completely alone, but when the changes came I was open minded, mostly embraced them and accepted that they are in for the long haul and made my peace that this is now our game.

What I can't understand, and I know a few of these, is people who demanded change, constantly criticised he game, then when they got the change they continued to complain that the rules were no good.

[Truthsayer]

Aw lads just give up the whining.
We're not going back to 15 behind the ball boring sh1te.

Exactly that... might be more tweaking needed but to hear Mickey Harte girning about rule changes brought about because of coaches like him and Jimmy McGuinness who had ruined the game...

[Armamike]

Aw lads just give up the whining.
We're not going back to 15 behind the ball boring sh1te.

Nobody said they wanted that. 

[trueblue1234]

I was just about to say you would need to stop giving your opinion on the rules lads or Rossfan would be in to give out to ya. But he beat me to it. 🤣

[Captain Obvious]

Aw lads just give up the whining.
We're not going back to 15 behind the ball boring sh1te.

Exactly that... might be more tweaking needed but to hear Mickey Harte girning about rule changes brought about because of coaches like him and Jimmy McGuinness who had ruined the game...

For a Tyrone fella you have an awful bee buzzing around in your bonnet with Mickey Harte while not realising without him Tyrone would likely be stuck on zero senior All Ireland titles so when he speaks it's worth paying attention.

As for Jimmy McGuinness "who had ruined the game"  Donegal in 2012 and 2014 on route to winning and challenging for the All Ireland was better spectacle than what we have seen so far under these Frankenstein changes.

[Rossfan]

I was just about to say you would need to stop giving your opinion on the rules lads or Rossfan would be in to give out to ya. But he beat me to it. 🤣

The only place there is constant giving out about the new rules is this forum
They were voted in by over 90%.

[Wildweasel74]

I seen a U16 score a 2pter from play the other nite, if they fit to score it at that age, I be doing away with it. Nobody knew what they were voting for. I suspect a few are beginning to see some of the new rules don't work.