Ulster Championship 2025

[lenny]

Its looks proportionally easier for players at the top level to score 2 pointers, as it should be

Mickey Harte makes a good point, with having to keep 3 up there's no need for 2 pointers

this is it, with the space with the 3 up it would encourage working goals more that working the ball round the arc for 2pts. we have inflated score lines but higher scoring doesnt really mean better. The 3 up was plenty.

Totally agree. I always thought the 2 points was a really bad idea. I would also do away with the 40m arc altogether. With players not allowed to pass back to the keeper there is already jeopardy with short kick outs and plenty of incentive for teams to press kick outs so the arc should go.

[flowerpot]

The ability to decide to take a free out for a two pointer is the really bad idea, be some craic if that decided an All Ireland Final.

[Rossfan]

Don't give the opposition the chance then.

[tbrick18]

Its looks proportionally easier for players at the top level to score 2 pointers, as it should be

Mickey Harte makes a good point, with having to keep 3 up there's no need for 2 pointers

this is it, with the space with the 3 up it would encourage working goals more that working the ball round the arc for 2pts. we have inflated score lines but higher scoring doesnt really mean better. The 3 up was plenty.

Totally agree. I always thought the 2 points was a really bad idea. I would also do away with the 40m arc altogether. With players not allowed to pass back to the keeper there is already jeopardy with short kick outs and plenty of incentive for teams to press kick outs so the arc should go.

I'd agree. If they really want to keep the 2 pointers, just make it any score from outside the 45. Simple to referee and brings more skill to it.
Scrap the arc and forced long kickout and I'd also scrap the backpass to keeper. At least scrap the arc and long kick, giving teams a fighting chance if getting cleaned out in the middle. The blanket defence around the arc and the fact that teams don't seem to be kicking long and high into the FF seems to negate the reasoning for a lot of the rules imo.

The half way rule annoys me too. At the Cavan v Tyrone game yesterday, Cavan player competed for a high ball and managed to break it down away from the tyrone player, but the ball spilled over the half way line - so he had to stop and couldn't chase the ball he just did all the hard work to break. What does that add to the game?

[5times5times]

McNally & Cassidy should be nowhere near either semis or the final...

Cassidy allowed antrim to seriously injure some armagh players
McNally, made all about himself. What's new

[Milltown Row2]

McNally & Cassidy should be nowhere near either semis or the final...

Cassidy allowed antrim to seriously injure some armagh players
McNally, made all about himself. What's new

Wise up

[Armamike]

Its looks proportionally easier for players at the top level to score 2 pointers, as it should be

Mickey Harte makes a good point, with having to keep 3 up there's no need for 2 pointers

this is it, with the space with the 3 up it would encourage working goals more that working the ball round the arc for 2pts. we have inflated score lines but higher scoring doesnt really mean better. The 3 up was plenty.

Totally agree. I always thought the 2 points was a really bad idea. I would also do away with the 40m arc altogether. With players not allowed to pass back to the keeper there is already jeopardy with short kick outs and plenty of incentive for teams to press kick outs so the arc should go.

I'd agree. If they really want to keep the 2 pointers, just make it any score from outside the 45. Simple to referee and brings more skill to it.
Scrap the arc and forced long kickout and I'd also scrap the backpass to keeper. At least scrap the arc and long kick, giving teams a fighting chance if getting cleaned out in the middle. The blanket defence around the arc and the fact that teams don't seem to be kicking long and high into the FF seems to negate the reasoning for a lot of the rules imo.

The half way rule annoys me too. At the Cavan v Tyrone game yesterday, Cavan player competed for a high ball and managed to break it down away from the tyrone player, but the ball spilled over the half way line - so he had to stop and couldn't chase the ball he just did all the hard work to break. What does that add to the game?

That's why being too prescriptive and telling teams where they should position their players on the pitch is the wrong approach imo.

[tiempo]

Tyrone v Armagh - Croke?

[flowerpot]

Based on weekend attendances you could just open Hill 16!

[AustinPowers]

Its looks proportionally easier for players at the top level to score 2 pointers, as it should be

Mickey Harte makes a good point, with having to keep 3 up there's no need for 2 pointers

this is it, with the space with the 3 up it would encourage working goals more that working the ball round the arc for 2pts. we have inflated score lines but higher scoring doesnt really mean better. The 3 up was plenty.

Totally agree. I always thought the 2 points was a really bad idea. I would also do away with the 40m arc altogether. With players not allowed to pass back to the keeper there is already jeopardy with short kick outs and plenty of incentive for teams to press kick outs so the arc should go.

I'd agree. If they really want to keep the 2 pointers, just make it any score from outside the 45. Simple to referee and brings more skill to it.
Scrap the arc and forced long kickout and I'd also scrap the backpass to keeper. At least scrap the arc and long kick, giving teams a fighting chance if getting cleaned out in the middle. The blanket defence around the arc and the fact that teams don't seem to be kicking long and high into the FF seems to negate the reasoning for a lot of the rules imo.

The half way rule annoys me too. At the Cavan v Tyrone game yesterday, Cavan player competed for a high ball and managed to break it down away from the tyrone player, but the ball spilled over the half way line - so he had to stop and couldn't chase the ball he just did all the hard work to break. What does that add to the game?

Nothing. It's a load of b@llix

[Blowitupref]

Tyrone v Armagh - Croke?

I'd focus on trying to fill a Ulster venue.  Attendance in Omagh yesterday was 6791. Well down on 9950 in same fixture last year. 

[flowerpot]

Don't give the opposition the chance then.

So if a ref deems a player didn't hand a ball back because the opposition is acting the bollocks that's out of the players hands.

[flowerpot]

McNally & Cassidy should be nowhere near either semis or the final...

Cassidy allowed antrim to seriously injure some armagh players
McNally, made all about himself. What's new

Totally agree, imagine the outrage if it was role reversals, yet the rose tinted supporters here are defending it, await the venom here if an Armagh player does similar during the summer.

[thebigfullforward]

Don't give the opposition the chance then.

So if a ref deems a player didn't hand a ball back because the opposition is acting the bollocks that's out of the players hands.

Seen many cases like this so far. McKernan for example yesterday shoved around by two Cavan players after giving a free away and dropped the ball, ref brought it forward. Was at a minor game where a player committed a foul but got the ball. Opposition player ran past the player that was fouled to get the ball and the lad that fouled threw it back to the player that he fouled past the player that was running towards him, ref brought it forward. He was genuinely trying to give the ball back to the player he fouled and not the player that was running towards him and was punished for it. Funny though if he did give the ball to the player running towards him the ref would've called that player back to where the foul was committed so it would've slowed play down more than handing it back

[tiempo]

Don't give the opposition the chance then.

So if a ref deems a player didn't hand a ball back because the opposition is acting the bollocks that's out of the players hands.

Seen many cases like this so far. McKernan for example yesterday shoved around by two Cavan players after giving a free away and dropped the ball, ref brought it forward. Was at a minor game where a player committed a foul but got the ball. Opposition player ran past the player that was fouled to get the ball and the lad that fouled threw it back to the player that he fouled past the player that was running towards him, ref brought it forward. He was genuinely trying to give the ball back to the player he fouled and not the player that was running towards him and was punished for it. Funny though if he did give the ball to the player running towards him the ref would've called that player back to where the foul was committed so it would've slowed play down more than handing it back

Put it over the bar yourself ref 👀 great line