Inter-Provincial Series showcasing new rules..

[Mikhailov]

I didn't read anything in the proposed rules that says Aidan O'Shea is allowed push lads in the back as long as there's a goal scoring opportunity out of it. Fitzmaurice acknowledged the foul but thought it was great.

Fitzmaurice basically tried to comment positively on everything even if it wasn't - he must think the public watching are fools.  That incident about O'Shea a perfect example. Kept trying to sell every aspect of the rules - Armagh v Donegal will soon sort any new rules out as to whether they are good or not

The reality is that 97% of the games played are at club level and the club level cannot cope with these changes

[From the Bunker]

I think Aidan O'Shea should be banned for 3 months for the push. Disgraceful act.
Can't understand how he gets picked for teams.
He cant catch a ball, he cant kick a ball, has zero skill and his attitude stinks ..... He just barges through players. Bet he was the first one signing autographs and doing selfies after the match.
People like O'Shea give Gaelic football a bad image.

[gallsman]

Would you ever just f**k up.

The target of the criticism was Fitzmaurice, not O'Shea.

[marty34]

Bringing the ball up 50m for a minor infringement is ridiculous

I like it.

Might sort out the silly stuff.

Hopefully it will.

There has to be an element of common sense applied though. There are times when a player genuinely will have no idea what they've done wrong, if they've done anything wrong at all. Expecting players in those circumstances to not even be allowed exclaim "huh?!" without the ball being moved up the pitch is crazy.

Waffle. Trying to run across/block a quick quick is silly.  Learn the new rules - it's simple.

The players were away for a week-end camp. I'm 100% sure they went through the rules on Friday. I'm 100% that they reviewed the game from last night today. So this...oh, I didn't know the rules doesn't wash.

A player, at inter-county, never mind provincial knows what he's at.

It's his job to get out of the way.

A few of them tonight and players will soon learn.

Speeds up the game.

[gallsman]

Bringing the ball up 50m for a minor infringement is ridiculous

I like it.

Might sort out the silly stuff.

Hopefully it will.

There has to be an element of common sense applied though. There are times when a player genuinely will have no idea what they've done wrong, if they've done anything wrong at all. Expecting players in those circumstances to not even be allowed exclaim "huh?!" without the ball being moved up the pitch is crazy.

Waffle. Trying to run across/block a quick quick is silly.  Learn the new rules - it's simple.

The players were away for a week-end camp. I'm 100% sure they went through the rules on Friday. I'm 109% that they reviewed the game from last night today. So this...oh, I didn't know the rules doesn't wash.

A player, at inter-county, never mind provincial knows what he's at.

It's his job to get out of the way.

A few of them tonight and players will soon learn.

Speeds up the game.

How is it waffle?! Not all reactions from a player conceding a free are a deliberate or cynical ploy to delay the game. Hence why I raised the topic of common sense. Running across or blocking a quick kick is clearly, to all, a calculated attempt to slow down the game and mitigate the impact of the free, and should be punished accordingly. I don't think too many disagree with that?

A player expressing genuine shock at having conceded a free, especially if the ref has got it wrong, is obviously, to anyone with a brain, not as clear cut. For that expression of suprise, or to ask what happened is not the same a someone mouthing away at a ref.

[AustinPowers]

This handing the  ball to an opponent......

What if the opponent deliberately   drops the ball? Is it moved up  because the  opponent didn't  put it into his hands? Why not just drop the ball  where  the foul is blown?

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

Agree with Rian/Forker on the 4 point  goals........

  I recorded the match and watched it back. I actually had to pause it to add  up the scores . 

The lads on RTE  made a good point  re: the 3v3.  It actually pays to have the keeper up in opponents half , as it creates  an extra  man (with more space ). So if the Rules men had ideas about  hoping this  would  force keepers to stay in goal , it looks like it will have the opposite affect. Roaming keepers will become  even more  important 

[AustinPowers]

Was there no Cup presentation?

Or did the GAA  have it melted down  a few years back ?

[gallsman]

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

That is the proposed new rule.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

That can get in the bin.

[AustinPowers]

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

That is the proposed new rule.

I could understand bringing  it back  for the mark if he was fouled while  getting his shot away . But   this is just mad , Ted.

[lenny]

The best thing about these games is it shows there is a spot in the calendar for the Railway cup. There are loads of class players at this stage whose club seasons have finished and are available. All 4 provinces mightnt have their best sides but there are enough really good players to watch. Id be fairly sure all players involved have enjoyed the experience and would be keen to play again.

[Mikhailov]

This handing the  ball to an opponent......

What if the opponent deliberately   drops the ball? Is it moved up  because the  opponent didn't  put it into his hands? Why not just drop the ball  where  the foul is blown?

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

Agree with Rian/Forker on the 4 point  goals........

  I recorded the match and watched it back. I actually had to pause it to add  up the scores . 

The lads on RTE  made a good point  re: the 3v3.  It actually pays to have the keeper up in opponents half , as it creates  an extra  man (with more space ). So if the Rules men had ideas about  hoping this  would  force keepers to stay in goal , it looks like it will have the opposite affect. Roaming keepers will become  even more  important 

If the roaming keeper starts becomes more important, then 2 things will happen.

Teams will pick an outfield player as the keeper knowing that he effectively is an extra outfield player when that team is in possession and inside the opposition 65 as it will be 12 v 11.
Then because he is not an orthodox keeper, teams will defend very deep with 11 men to insure he is not tested and prevent 4 point goals...

[From the Bunker]

The best thing about these games is it shows there is a spot in the calendar for the Railway cup. There are loads of class players at this stage whose club seasons have finished and are available. All 4 provinces mightnt have their best sides but there are enough really good players to watch. Id be fairly sure all players involved have enjoyed the experience and would be keen to play again.

The weekend showed there is no interest in a Railway cup competition. Attendance was really really poor. You'd have to put an event like this in a smaller more central venue and horse out a loads of free tickets and maybe a meet a greet with the players after. The weather is cold and wet. Railway Cups thrived in a era with less competitions, with less chances of seeing top players play.

[lenny]

This handing the  ball to an opponent......

What if the opponent deliberately   drops the ball? Is it moved up  because the  opponent didn't  put it into his hands? Why not just drop the ball  where  the foul is blown?

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

Agree with Rian/Forker on the 4 point  goals........

  I recorded the match and watched it back. I actually had to pause it to add  up the scores . 

The lads on RTE  made a good point  re: the 3v3.  It actually pays to have the keeper up in opponents half , as it creates  an extra  man (with more space ). So if the Rules men had ideas about  hoping this  would  force keepers to stay in goal , it looks like it will have the opposite affect. Roaming keepers will become  even more  important 

If the roaming keeper starts becomes more important, then 2 things will happen.

Teams will pick an outfield player as the keeper knowing that he effectively is an extra outfield player when that team is in possession and inside the opposition 65 as it will be 12 v 11.
Then because he is not an orthodox keeper, teams will defend very deep with 11 men to insure he is not tested and prevent 4 point goals...

Totally agree re the keeper. An outfielder who's a good long kicker (good free taker ideally) will be a must.

[Captain Scarlet]

I think there is too much happening at once but I hope the 3 up sticks. It does allow shape and lads actually seemed to look ahead more.

One point is that forwards are not used to taking lads on and protecting the ball as much as older times. The safety net of having so many bodies behind them is reduced.