NI Public Health Consultation Bill - Jul 2024

Started by theskull1, September 24, 2024, 09:14:57 PM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on September 25, 2024, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: J70 on September 25, 2024, 10:04:06 AMI take it you lads will be just fine with no restrictions or mandates if and when, say, one of the lethal viral haemorrhaggic fevers shows up in your community?

Should I be forced to take a vaccine? No.

Should I not be allowed to travel on shared transport or go to a shared space without a vaccine? Yes.

Being forced to do something against my will, I find that unacceptable, but with that decision comes implications and if those implications means I can't do things due to a lack of a vaccine then that's on me if it's for the greater public health need.






Not married then? Lucky bastard  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

The sooner whacky backy is legalised on this island the better

J70

Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2024, 12:08:56 PMGeorge Orwell published Nineteen Eighty-Four in 1949. It seems that many are forgetting the warning signals in that book of creeping totalitarianism and the importance of protecting individual rights and freedoms.

I think most sensible western people realize and accept that living in a society brings individual rights and freedoms, but also responsibilities towards others in that shared society. It's been that way their entire lives. Including oh-so-oppressive vaccine requirements.


 

bogball88

Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2024, 09:14:57 PMThe Department of Health is currently running a public consultation on the development of a new Public Health Bill relating to public health emergencies.

Policy underpinning the Public Health Bill (Northern Ireland) - Consultation

Date of issue: 5 July 2024
Action required: Responses by 14 October

Scary proposals being considered in this public health consultation document yet the only MLA making noises about it is the DUP's Paul Frew (also Aontus Gemma Brolly).

(see page 47 if you want a headline page) 



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general_lee


Rossfan

Tin foil hat factory might get back into production.
2026 the year of the 9 Cups

Last Man

So much low hanging fruit that the health department doesn't want to look at while they focus on this stuff to create the illusion of "Don't worry folks, we got this covered! Just take your meds and everything will be just fine!"
Have a look around you! How well is it working?
Next time you are in town, sit on a bench for half ann hour and people watch.

cryptoGuy

The pro government shills are out in force  as usual labelling people as conspiracy theorists.

It's totalitarian, simple as.

Last Man

Pushing the conversation to the extremes is what they want. Go ad hominem. Nothing gets done. A balance is struck somewhere round the middle where hopefully people might respectfully listen to each other and then form their own opinion.

lurganblue

Quote from: JoG2 on September 25, 2024, 12:11:16 PMThe sooner whacky backy is legalised on this island the better

I think that has to in the near future. A lovely taxable endeavour for the govt.

JoG2

Quote from: lurganblue on September 26, 2024, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 25, 2024, 12:11:16 PMThe sooner whacky backy is legalised on this island the better

I think that has to in the near future. A lovely taxable endeavour for the govt.

That would be great. Passing around the peace pipe after the Sunday roast.....

J70

Quote from: Last Man on September 26, 2024, 09:23:59 AMPushing the conversation to the extremes is what they want. Go ad hominem. Nothing gets done. A balance is struck somewhere round the middle where hopefully people might respectfully listen to each other and then form their own opinion.


The very premise of this thread was pushing things to the extremes. It's a proposal to update pretty basic public health outbreak policies, but you'd swear it was Hitler and the Gestapo massing at the border to round everyone up and clear the ghettos.

theskull1

J70 ... if that policy was in place 4 years ago, do you believe someone would have injected me with the covid vaccine against my will?
 
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Last Man

Increasing obesity, autism, adhd, asthma, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, dementia, Alzheimer's, stroke, arthritis etc etc. very little legislation to start tackling root cause of this stuff apart from introducing more costly drugs to temper symptoms and keep you just a little less sick. I wish I had forseen the invention of the pill caddy/organiser back in the day.
Doctors only care about the system, not you the patient, a fact demonstrated by them being one of the largest professional cohorts in the Nazi party back in the day.

general_lee

Just the two pages for some flid to enact Godwin's law.