Ulster Club SFC 2024

Started by general_lee, September 16, 2024, 11:37:31 AM

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quit yo jibbajabba

I personally love the annual Tyrone/Ulster Champo debate, it's what's i tune in for

Ps it's been a couple of weeks since it's been mentioned as the toughest Cship to win in Ulster , someone's slacking somewhere 🤓

DownFanatic

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 18, 2024, 12:22:42 PMThe likes of Kilcoo and Glen would tailor their training towards Ulster. Not necessarily talked about but in their minds eyes they are. Doesn't mean they are not focusing on the county championship but generally they are capable of winning these while not at full pace. We used to be able to do that but not anymore.

The Tyrone question is annual at this stage. I'm not so sure that it is as hard to win as peoples suggest. The straight knock out is the hardest part of it. The irony is that we were at our most dominant when Armagh was straight knock out. I just think that all the teams from top intermediate straight through to senior winners are at a similar level. Each capable of winning on any given day and each liable to lose. It's just very even.

Kilcoo are into the Down semi finals and haven't had even close to their full team out yet. Their strength in depth is staggering.

WT4E

Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 18, 2024, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 10:52:16 AM
Quote from: WT4E on September 16, 2024, 03:49:18 PMTyrone SFC at QF stage this weekend:

Carrickmore v Killyclogher
Dungannon v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Ardboe
Errigal Ciaran v Clonoe

Just an insight into the Tyrone last 8 IMHO

Expecting an Errigal V Dungannon final.
Loughmacrory are a young side and have plenty of quality in the younger members but I think they will lack the experience to get past Dungannon (An upset isvery possible). Killyclogher Carrickmore is a flip of the coin but I don't think either have enough to win it - Carrickmore where previously kingpins but are now going through their longest drought in history I believe.

On the Errigal side they really only have Trillick to negogiate and I think they will as back to back Tyrone titles are virtually impossible and I don;t think Trillick are anywhere near the form of last year.

Errigal to go into Ulster for me.
I'm confused what you mean here? You say Errigal only have to get past Trillick but you predicted a Dungannon - Errigal final. That can't happen considering Errigal are on one side of the draw and Trillick & Dungannon are on the other

I'm open to correction but I believe winners of Errigal Clonoe play winners of Trillick Ardboe?

WT4E

Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 18, 2024, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 10:52:16 AM
Quote from: WT4E on September 16, 2024, 03:49:18 PMTyrone SFC at QF stage this weekend:

Carrickmore v Killyclogher
Dungannon v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Ardboe
Errigal Ciaran v Clonoe

Just an insight into the Tyrone last 8 IMHO

Expecting an Errigal V Dungannon final.
Loughmacrory are a young side and have plenty of quality in the younger members but I think they will lack the experience to get past Dungannon (An upset isvery possible). Killyclogher Carrickmore is a flip of the coin but I don't think either have enough to win it - Carrickmore where previously kingpins but are now going through their longest drought in history I believe.

On the Errigal side they really only have Trillick to negogiate and I think they will as back to back Tyrone titles are virtually impossible and I don;t think Trillick are anywhere near the form of last year.

Errigal to go into Ulster for me.
I'm confused what you mean here? You say Errigal only have to get past Trillick but you predicted a Dungannon - Errigal final. That can't happen considering Errigal are on one side of the draw and Trillick & Dungannon are on the other

I'm open to correction but I believe winners of Errigal Clonoe play winners of Trillick Ardboe?

Just checked that i'm wrong.

Still fancy and Errigal v Dungannon final. Dungannon to beat Lough and take care of Trillick. Errigal to beat Clonoe and then beat whatever comes through the other QF.

WT4E

Would Kilcoo or Glen win back to back Tyrone titles? Still think it comes down to successive success in your county enabling your team to navigate Ulster.

statto

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 18, 2024, 12:38:37 PMI personally love the annual Tyrone/Ulster Champo debate, it's what's i tune in for

Ps it's been a couple of weeks since it's been mentioned as the toughest Cship to win in Ulster , someone's slacking somewhere 🤓
The newbies on the Tyrone thread mustn't got the memo personal insults and insulting clubs is more the way to go by look of things!

Mario

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Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 01:45:55 PMWould Kilcoo or Glen win back to back Tyrone titles? Still think it comes down to successive success in your county enabling your team to navigate Ulster.
Plenty of Derry teams have won ulster after their first county title in years. Ballinderry 2001, Slaughtneil 2014 , the Loup 2003, Dungiven 1997 all spring to mind. Even Glen had only won 2 county titles when they won it.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Mario on September 18, 2024, 02:35:37 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 01:45:55 PMWould Kilcoo or Glen win back to back Tyrone titles? Still think it comes down to successive success in your county enabling your team to navigate Ulster.
Plenty of Derry teams have won ulster after their first county title in years. Ballinderry 2001, Slaughtneil 2014 , the Loup 2003, Dungiven 1997 all spring to mind. Even Glen had only won 2 county titles when they won it.

How many clubs are there in Derry? and 8 of them have won Ulster.

Thats I'm guessing 20% of their clubs roughly speaking.

55 iterations of the ulster senior club and Derry have won 17; nearly one third.

FermGael

Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 01:45:55 PMWould Kilcoo or Glen win back to back Tyrone titles? Still think it comes down to successive success in your county enabling your team to navigate Ulster.

Yes
Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

tiempo

Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 01:45:55 PMWould Kilcoo or Glen win back to back Tyrone titles? Still think it comes down to successive success in your county enabling your team to navigate Ulster.

Kilcoo wouldn't win one in a row in Tyrone, Glen prolly would

Milltown Row2

So when the best of the rest knockout the the Tyrone champions year on year, they wouldn't win a Tyrone Championship.

I'm not sure now if this is a joke or serious every year since the 70's  ;D 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

Quote from: tiempo on September 19, 2024, 08:35:32 AM
Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2024, 01:45:55 PMWould Kilcoo or Glen win back to back Tyrone titles? Still think it comes down to successive success in your county enabling your team to navigate Ulster.

Kilcoo wouldn't win one in a row in Tyrone, Glen prolly would

Indeed, anyone of the 28 teams who could win Tyrone in a given year would put manners on them


Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2024, 08:50:49 AMSo when the best of the rest knockout the the Tyrone champions year on year, they wouldn't win a Tyrone Championship.

I'm not sure now if this is a joke or serious every year since the 70's  ;D 

Love this conversation, strictly cause it annoys the Tyronies. 

The only logical thing to do to settle this debate is to add the Ulster champions into the Tyrone championship the following year.  This is clearly the next step up in terms of competition in Ulster. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

general_lee

Always good to see a bit of Tyrone-bashing. They love this pushing the myth that they've the best championship in Ireland, anyone can beat anyone - in reality half the teams are nowhere near contenders:
Ardboe, Clonoe, Coalisland, Donaghmore, Edendork, Eglish, Galbally, Omagh.