RG at arms length

[Armagh18]

Genuine question.

This must have happened in the old days. Player or manager while legally innocent was known to be battering the wife or whatnot. We're they ostracised or was it all just ignored?

Haven't came across it tbh, genuinely.

[Milltown Row2]

Genuine question.

This must have happened in the old days. Player or manager while legally innocent was known to be battering the wife or whatnot. We're they ostracised or was it all just ignored?

Even when it happened in public with the physical abuse of Ulrika Jonsson by Stan Collymore it was ignored..

He even got jobs in the media!

Old Ireland view's unfortunately with people in clubs, it's none of our business attitude

Collymore wasn't ignored. It was all over the papers. Charges weren't pressed but Villa dumped him as soon as they could effectively ending his career.

My question was more the local wife beating bully. Were they gently nudged out of the club or was it ignored.

He punched his girlfriend (mother of his kid) before that one with Jonsson continued to play for clubs till he was 30 and then had a media career for 16 years..

And that's after it was all over the papers! Some lessons there

I'd say you'd struggle in comparison to the aul soccer lads giving people a by ball (pun intended)

You're a dose! Remember anyone doing it regardless of type of club they are at is wrong, but it's happening and will continue.

Are you looking a charter made up for all sports clubs that those involved paid up players members must sign that in scenario of domestic abuse that they are ousted after found guilty or just on hearsay?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Genuine question.

This must have happened in the old days. Player or manager while legally innocent was known to be battering the wife or whatnot. We're they ostracised or was it all just ignored?

Even when it happened in public with the physical abuse of Ulrika Jonsson by Stan Collymore it was ignored..

He even got jobs in the media!

Old Ireland view's unfortunately with people in clubs, it's none of our business attitude

Collymore wasn't ignored. It was all over the papers. Charges weren't pressed but Villa dumped him as soon as they could effectively ending his career.

My question was more the local wife beating bully. Were they gently nudged out of the club or was it ignored.

He punched his girlfriend (mother of his kid) before that one with Jonsson continued to play for clubs till he was 30 and then had a media career for 16 years..

And that's after it was all over the papers! Some lessons there

I'd say you'd struggle in comparison to the aul soccer lads giving people a by ball (pun intended)

You're a dose! Remember anyone doing it regardless of type of club they are at is wrong, but it's happening and will continue.

Are you looking a charter made up for all sports clubs that those involved paid up players members must sign that in scenario of domestic abuse that they are ousted after found guilty or just on hearsay?

Collymore's antics weren't, as you claimed, ignored. Was he ostracised like he should have been? No. But the behaviour had consequences.

My question was is there a precedent within the GAA for this sort of thing. But let's talk about 90's soccer instead.

[David McKeown]

It was mentioned earlier in the thread by tiempo  that Jarlath had made unsubstantiated claims against Rory G, what exactly were those unsubstantiated claims in that email? 

I didn't find anything in Jarlath´s email that you can hang your hat on, unlike say the recent Gerry Adams case.
It also came to light that the GAA club was inundated with letters of concern about Rory´s possible appointment.
Would you not think that Jarlath has taken considerable legal advice on the matter?

 

From what I've seen no I don't think so. At the very least I think he has undermined the safeguarding protocols of the association. I think had he received considerable legal advice it would have advised against what happened on that basis alone.

Of course it's impossible to know what we don't know at this stage so it is possible he did but I'd be surprised

[marty34]

Did RG send a letter to Jarlath Burns recently about his situation...or am I imagining that?

[galwayman]

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/my-gaa-star-boyfriend-kicked-me-in-the-face/a1969064601.html

Wonder if he will be given the road or will there be any protests at his next club game.

Well that was common knowledge in Mayo in the lead up to the intermediate final against Ballinderry. Club tried to keep it quiet

[Main Street]

It was mentioned earlier in the thread by tiempo  that Jarlath had made unsubstantiated claims against Rory G, what exactly were those unsubstantiated claims in that email? 

I didn't find anything in Jarlath´s email that you can hang your hat on, unlike say the recent Gerry Adams case.
It also came to light that the GAA club was inundated with letters of concern about Rory´s possible appointment.
Would you not think that Jarlath has taken considerable legal advice on the matter?

 

From what I've seen no I don't think so. At the very least I think he has undermined the safeguarding protocols of the association. I think had he received considerable legal advice it would have advised against what happened on that basis alone.

Of course it's impossible to know what we don't know at this stage so it is possible he did but I'd be surprised

I can't for the life of me see where Jarlath damaged the reputation of Rory in that email, his private letter being in amongst a hundred or so concerned letters sent into that GAA club and Jarlath did not make claims of any substance.

A Jarlath 'overreach' as president is a GAA matter, not a criminal offense in itself.
Wouldn't Rory have to prove that Jarlath's email was both malicious and the sole/major contribution to affecting the GAA clubs decision not to appoint Rory? What about the weight of all the other letters? And then what about should the GAA club committee give evidence about their decision not to appoint Rory which does not support Rory's court case?

[Milltown Row2]

If you can get €85,000 for not getting a job because the interviewer said enjoy having your baby then Jarlath's fucked!

[u]

Genuine question.

This must have happened in the old days. Player or manager while legally innocent was known to be battering the wife or whatnot. We're they ostracised or was it all just ignored?

why have so many former LOI players turned to drug dealing? A lot of lads lifted in recent years. A lot of shady characters, including the father of young LOI rising star.

[Wildweasel74]

What about players hiding semtex in their roofspace as one of ours got done for bck in the day lol.

[Milltown Row2]

What about players hiding semtex in their roofspace as one of ours got done for bck in the day lol.

Boys were in jail left right and center, back in the day, but it was different then 

[Derryman forever]

If you can get €85,000 for not getting a job because the interviewer said enjoy having your baby then Jarlath's fucked!

Exactly

[Derryman forever]

What about players hiding semtex in their roofspace as one of ours got done for bck in the day lol.

Boys were in jail left right and center, back in the day, but it was different then 

And again.
Exactly

[twohands!!!]

If you can get €85,000 for not getting a job because the interviewer said enjoy having your baby then Jarlath's fucked!

That's not the full story at all - she'd been working in the school, was more experienced than the other candidate and those doing the interview had nothing at all to back up why they gave the job to the other candidate.

[Rossfan]

I was roped into an Interview panel some years ago.
Not being a professional interviewer I was warned under no circumstances ask anything about their private life, domestic situation, marriage status, children etc.