Brian McGuigans Bad Luck

[orangeman]

Sonny - sorry but one word response - RUBBISH !

[sonny]

Orangeman everything I have stated is fact and I can produce witness, copies of letters, emails etc to verify everything I have said.
As the matter is heading for the courts I have been very very careful with the content of my message.

[Uladh]

You're not a meath man then?

You can't imagine my disappointment.

[loughshore lad]

Aghyaran club and members sent there best wishes to Brian after the accident, one official spoke to Brian on the telephone and Aghyaran were also in contact with Ardboe officials in the days after Brian's injury to enquire about his well being but somewhere along the line Frank senior seems to totally blanked this from his memory!!!

This is compete rubbish. Aghayarn did not contact either the Ardboe club or Brian about this "in the days after Brian's injury".

[Hardy]

Lads can we leave the bickering there. Best of luck to Brian.

Uladh - like you, my heart soared for a moment.

[orangeman]

It's not bickering - but I can't let this go unchallenged - Sonny's claims are completely false  - at the same time I don't want to get into an arguing match about what was said and what wasn't said, who telephoned and who didn't etc.

I just hope Brian recovers his sight and that he may be able to play some football in the future. The most important thing is that he recovers his vision.

[loughshore lad]

Lads can we leave the bickering there. Best of luck to Brian.

Totally agree. I have been very reluctant to post on this thread as I know how bad the injury is and how gutted Brian feels about it. Some posts just get my back up and I cant help but reply. The Aghayarn club were wrong not to at least contact either the Ardboe club, Brian or some of his family members to enquire about his well being after the seriousness of the injury emerged - anyone in the know is fully aware they didnt so lets just leave it at that. Also Frank snr was in my opinion wrong to act in the manner he has, he is leaving both himself and probably more importantly Brian open to criticism and speculation. I hope this dies down and Brian is left to make a full recovery in peace.

[orangeman]

Well said Loughshore Lad - couldn't agree more - we'll leave it like that -

[Star Spangler]

I am from Aghyaran and I think perhaps the public should be aware that the reason for the Aghyaran club's silence on this matter is fairly obvious i.e. a short time after the accident the club were told that the matter was being referred to solicitors as Brian intended to take a legal claim for compensation against the Aghyaran young player involved in the accidental collision.

I think this is perfectly understandable but I also think the Aghyaran club could have avoided a lot of the negative reaction by coming out and saying this in the first place.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

I am from Aghyaran and I think perhaps the public should be aware that the reason for the Aghyaran club's silence on this matter is fairly obvious i.e. a short time after the accident the club were told that the matter was being referred to solicitors as Brian intended to take a legal claim for compensation against the Aghyaran young player involved in the accidental collision.

I think this is perfectly understandable but I also think the Aghyaran club could have avoided a lot of the negative reaction by coming out and saying this in the first place.

Agreed SS, let's all leave it at that and let due process take its course. There's unanimity about Brian's health and welfare, and that far outweighs anything else in importance.

[Fuzzman]

Maybe we should leave it there but I think there needs to be a meeting between managers and the county board discilinary committee and maybe Mickey Harte.

There does seem to be a common theme happening here more and more with county players coming in for a lot of stick from both other players and even referees who tend to target county men and their BIG egos.

Surely if Mickey Harte and the players are committed enough to continue playing for their clubs in the height of the championship season then they should not have to put up with this "Out to take him out" agenda that many players or even management have.
If clubs were to take action against their own players for such rash tackles etc then maybe we can rid this out of ourt game early on.

A lot of games I've been to i've saw Dooher targeted for special treatment as is Stevie O'Neill.
Of course you don't expect them to stand back and let them walk through ya but surely something needs to be done of late.
How many players are currently out of action because they got special treatment?

[gerry]

Same in ever County, nail you in a club game, then roar you on when you playing for your County.

[Fuzzman]

Just read this article from the Tyrone Times website
Lots of Tyrone lads have been slagging of this writer and personally I dont know much about him but I though this was an interesting read

Hughes' Views
By Kevin Hughes
Was Mickey Harte really accusing club players of deliberately inflicting injury on their fellow Tyrone men? I'm not sure. But I will tell you this much, if he did intend to do that, he wouldn't be on his own. I've had plenty of calls fairly recently from people who feel county men are bearing the brunt of more than their fair share of hefty challenges.
Now I want to make it clear from the outset that I'm not pointing the finger at anybody and I am in no way suggesting that injuries sustained by any of the Tyrone players in our league matches have been caused by deliberately reckless or needlessly over-robust tackles - and I say that even though there have been people who have been sent off for offences involving injury to some Red Hands players.
The question of intent is always a difficult one to quantify and a man has to be deemed innocent until he's proved guilty of any offence - and, when such incidents as those which would be described on the streets as sheer acts of thuggery happen on the field of play, they that can be infinitely harder to prove as being caused deliberately.
So what did the county team manager mean when he was quoted as saying Tyrone 'try to accommodate the clubs as much as possible. And if, in the middle of that accommodation, some of our players are targeted unnecessarily, then that is not helpful either.'
The problem for referees, who always seem to be in a no-win situation, is that very often they can often be accused of going overboard in their apparent quest to protect county squad members, especially the very evidently more high profile players, the ones with their faces plastered all over the papers on a regular basis.
One of the best-known referees around these parts told me he habitually advised teams before the start that he simply would not tolerate personal fouling as he believed officials must play a part in letting games flow as the paying spectators were entitled to some level of entertainment. He didn't specify that he would give special consideration to the plight of county men, but would succinctly get his message across when needs dictated.
County players are definitely entitled to be protected, albeit no more so than anybody else; yet the fact remains that some may come in for closer attention than the ordinary five-eight - partially because of their image, but also maybe just because they possess a wee bit of extra skill and thus pose something of a greater threat in the eyes of a much less-skilled opponent.
That's when brawn sometimes takes over from brain and the risk of some sort of an injury being sustained, therefore, is an inevitable consequence.
Is it a coincidence that the top players seem to be victims of injury more often than the rest - or is it may just be the case that we read about them a lot more?
But I still worry about referees and increasingly poor standards. Six players were sent off by Stephen McNamee in the Cookstown-Ardboe league tie last week, although I'm led to believe that was about right - given the row that had erupted. Four players were sent off by Coalisland's Donal Dorman in the midweek Donaghmore-Carrickmore tie, yet I'm assured it wasn't a dirty game. Three weeks ago he dismissed four as Errigal Ciaran beat Killeeshil, and Mickey Hughes sent off four as Killyclogher beat Dungannon. That's an awful lot of reds, especially as there were many others, too.

[orangeman]

Any update on Brian at all ?

[neutral]

Orangeman, we all care about Brians full recovery, but you are closer than anyone to know of updates.  Surely speculation and wrong stories are not in Brians interest as you and Frank senior have previously pointed out.  Let the lad and the story alone until real progress can be reported.