Derry Club Football & Hurling original

Started by Loup Bandit, May 08, 2007, 04:25:59 PM

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tbrick18

who's still out injured?
Lynch, Higgins, Downey(s)?
Servant but he's untested as yet.
Mcgurk Just returning from injury I think.
theres a few to strengthen the bench.
what about u20s....who all was drafted in?

Point I'm making is that all isn't lost yet.
I do think it was a mistake to not use the bench more against monaghan, but players on the field made mistakes even in the first half when we dominated, so we lost due to a number of small things, not any massive lack of players or management issues. A bit of luck, a bit more composure and we win that game and none of these discussions are happening.
I'm not sure this group will get back to the level of 23/24 but we're capable of beating anyone when everything is going well.
Hard to expect all the issues of the last couple of years to be fixed in a few months so let's give them a break.

marty34

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I just think it's nothing to do with players on the bench. Management, in my opinion, just do not trust them or think they're good enough. That's a serious trust issue which doesn't help relationships within a panel group. Some lad who is wrecked after playing goes back on again. What are the players on bench thinking?


I haven't saw RG's take on the game but Parkinson dissected the last few minutes of the game and it wasn't a great look in fairness. His take on it was you'd have thought Derry were a few points down, rather than a few points up. Then a catalogue of simple mistakes. Basically game management and seeing the game out. 

statto

Quote from: Mario on May 05, 2026, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 05, 2026, 07:03:25 PMWatched Gallagher clip there now, Is he saying something alot of people are not thinking, or in this case right? Calling a spade a spade!
I definitely feel we throw away far too many games from strong winning positions. Seen someone list them: 2023 AI semi, league games last year v Kerry, Donegal, Galway. Championship last year v Galway. Monaghan this year. 2023 league final we did our best to throw it away. 2024 championship v Mayo the same.

His ego really comes across in those videos. Shows a lack of loyalty to people that gave him absolutely everything too. I don't think it is calling a spade a spade though, it's lack of squad depth is the issue not character and that's mostly Gallaghers fault. I thought the main men that played over 100 minutes showed a lot of character to get themselves into a winning position in the last seconds of extra time despite what happened at end of normal time. I was sure we'd fold like a deck of cards in extra time but we didn't.
Gallagher is out of the Derry job three years, don't think lack of squad depth in 2026/ current management bringing players off and back on can be blamed on Gallagher. Since Gallagher left they have also went to Division 2 which should have afforded more of an opportunity to develop a few players.   

Derry may not have folded like a deck of cards but a more ruthless side would have won that game pulling up in normal time or composed themselves and got the job done in extra time.  Man for man Derry are a better side talent wise than Monaghan and should be in an Ulster final. 

Ryan O

Is the small bit of hope the fact we came out in extra time managed to take the lead and looked relatively in control. And as stated above its the same 15 men we turn to and some weren't having their best day.

Until the last minute.

There was another decision that I though very harsh and had big impact was Niall Toner being pulled for touching the ball on the ground. He definitely didn't, spilled it and it hit him right on the toe and shot out for what should have been a line ball.


ck

A horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.

Mario

Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.
I'd assumed people are paying him to do video analysis and this gives him then platform to promote his knowledge.

ck

Quote from: Mario on May 06, 2026, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.
I'd assumed people are paying him to do video analysis and this gives him then platform to promote his knowledge.

Yes I had heard he is in the background with both Down and Westmeath.
Still though, I don't see what the social media stuff does for him apart from making people dislike him even more?

JohnDenver

Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Mario on May 06, 2026, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.
I'd assumed people are paying him to do video analysis and this gives him then platform to promote his knowledge.

Yes I had heard he is in the background with both Down and Westmeath.
Still though, I don't see what the social media stuff does for him apart from making people dislike him even more?

How many times has he been referenced in this page since Saturday? That's exactly what it does for him, keeps him relevant.

marty34

Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.

What was the management on the line up to?

marty34

Quote from: JohnDenver on May 06, 2026, 03:33:30 PM
Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Mario on May 06, 2026, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.
I'd assumed people are paying him to do video analysis and this gives him then platform to promote his knowledge.

Yes I had heard he is in the background with both Down and Westmeath.
Still though, I don't see what the social media stuff does for him apart from making people dislike him even more?

How many times has he been referenced in this page since Saturday? That's exactly what it does for him, keeps him relevant.

Was Gallagher in charge of Derry when they played Galway and Kerry in Croke Park a few years ago?

quit yo jibbajabba

Was thinking that Marty. A wee analysis of the Galway second half be great RG good man 🙌

JoG2

Quote from: marty34 on May 06, 2026, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.

What was the management on the line up to?

Go 3 up, bring on fresh legs and break the play up. Bring on another sub a min later etc....some of our men were absolutely spent. Easiest thing in the world though watching from the sidelines that's for sure

Meenagh is a shrewd operator , Sat goes down as just one of those days 

Interstellar

When do we get an explanation from Derry management about the match last Saturday? No-one has appeared on any media platform. Very strange.

marty34

I think best thing to do is use everything like RG's comments, Woolie's analysis and comments on here etc. to their advantage.

Pin all the statements to the noticeboard in Owenbeg and come out fighting in a few weeks.

Siege mentality.

doh827

Quote from: JoG2 on May 06, 2026, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 06, 2026, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: ck on May 06, 2026, 12:20:55 PMA horrible melt down by Derry. Complete panic on the pitch and on the line both in normal time and again in ET. There was absolutely no calm among the management, up roaring at one another, no-one in control. Naturally this spills on to the pitch.

As for RG and his social media inputs. For the life of me I cannot understand why he is doing this? Is it attention seeking, ego, desperation? I dunno.

What was the management on the line up to?

Go 3 up, bring on fresh legs and break the play up. Bring on another sub a min later etc....some of our men were absolutely spent. Easiest thing in the world though watching from the sidelines that's for sure

Meenagh is a shrewd operator , Sat goes down as just one of those days 

Gallagher was saying in the video that it was a 'soft' decision to take Nial Loughin and Conor Doherty off, 2 lads that could barely run by the time they were took off and probably should've been took off earlier