Olympic boxing

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AZOffaly

She's 30 since july. 34 would be a stretch I'd say, but if she was in good form, who knows. The fact is she hasn't really been in good form, so 4 years from now probably looks like a million miles away to her.

laoislad

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:46:13 PM
She's 30 since july. 34 would be a stretch I'd say, but if she was in good form, who knows. The fact is she hasn't really been in good form, so 4 years from now probably looks like a million miles away to her.
The girl that just beat her was 35 or something so you never know.
Maybe she will go pro and make a few quid before she retires.
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From the Bunker

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:46:13 PM
She's 30 since july. 34 would be a stretch I'd say, but if she was in good form, who knows. The fact is she hasn't really been in good form, so 4 years from now probably looks like a million miles away to her.

She'll be a 34 year old woman. Can she put her life on hold for another 4 years for another piece of metal?

Bord na Mona man

I'd say in Katie's case the loss of Pete Taylor is a bigger factor than the Billy Walsh exit.
That said, it just goes to show you how tight the margins are in elite preparation. I'd say the Walsh factor was the extra grain of rice that tipped the scales in so many situations. The smallest of bad decisions can have an athlete undercooked, or over trained, or distracted, or tactically misdirected.
Whatever it was that Walsh had probably wasn't obvious to those who claimed there were 20 other coaches in Ireland who could do as good a job as him.


Syferus

Quote from: laoislad on August 15, 2016, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:46:13 PM
She's 30 since july. 34 would be a stretch I'd say, but if she was in good form, who knows. The fact is she hasn't really been in good form, so 4 years from now probably looks like a million miles away to her.
The girl that just beat her was 35 or something so you never know.
Maybe she will go pro and make a few quid before she retires.

Near zero money in the pro women's game. Would make more winning another Olympic medal in all likelihood.

AZOffaly

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 15, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
I'd say in Katie's case the loss of Pete Taylor is a bigger factor than the Billy Walsh exit.
That said, it just goes to show you how tight the margins are in elite preparation. I'd say the Walsh factor was the extra grain of rice that tipped the scales in so many situations. The smallest of bad decisions can have an athlete undercooked, or over trained, or distracted, or tactically misdirected.
Whatever it was that Walsh had probably wasn't obvious to those who claimed there were 20 other coaches in Ireland who could do as good a job as him.

The boxers seem to be holding the party line fairly well. I always assumed that Walsh was extremely well got by the boxers, but maybe not? Michael Conlon's interview is fairly harsh, but maybe it's just because they are sick of being asked about it.

Milltown Row2

Its a small relatively new sport, not a lot worldwide decent boxers to navigate through and she was at the forefront for a longtime, she's made the sport so popular, probably thousands of girls in ireland and Britain have taken up the sport because of her...

Maybe the athletes haven't acclimatised properly or haven't conditioned themselves accordingly... Either way Ireland has underperform in areas that it was expected to do well in... It happens
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yellowcard

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 15, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
I'd say in Katie's case the loss of Pete Taylor is a bigger factor than the Billy Walsh exit.
That said, it just goes to show you how tight the margins are in elite preparation. I'd say the Walsh factor was the extra grain of rice that tipped the scales in so many situations. The smallest of bad decisions can have an athlete undercooked, or over trained, or distracted, or tactically misdirected.
Whatever it was that Walsh had probably wasn't obvious to those who claimed there were 20 other coaches in Ireland who could do as good a job as him.

The boxers seem to be holding the party line fairly well. I always assumed that Walsh was extremely well got by the boxers, but maybe not? Michael Conlon's interview is fairly harsh, but maybe it's just because they are sick of being asked about it.

In fairness I think Michael Conlon's father is on the coaching team so he is hardly likely to say anything against the present coaches.

screenexile

Quote from: Syferus on August 15, 2016, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 15, 2016, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:46:13 PM
She's 30 since july. 34 would be a stretch I'd say, but if she was in good form, who knows. The fact is she hasn't really been in good form, so 4 years from now probably looks like a million miles away to her.
The girl that just beat her was 35 or something so you never know.
Maybe she will go pro and make a few quid before she retires.

Near zero money in the pro women's game. Would make more winning another Olympic medal in all likelihood.

Tough on her given that Women's boxing wasn't an Olympic sport for a number of years while she was dominating it. I didn't see the fight but it sounds like it could have gone either way!

Has anything come to light about why her Dad isn't involved anymore?

Bord na Mona man

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 15, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
I'd say in Katie's case the loss of Pete Taylor is a bigger factor than the Billy Walsh exit.
That said, it just goes to show you how tight the margins are in elite preparation. I'd say the Walsh factor was the extra grain of rice that tipped the scales in so many situations. The smallest of bad decisions can have an athlete undercooked, or over trained, or distracted, or tactically misdirected.
Whatever it was that Walsh had probably wasn't obvious to those who claimed there were 20 other coaches in Ireland who could do as good a job as him.

The boxers seem to be holding the party line fairly well. I always assumed that Walsh was extremely well got by the boxers, but maybe not? Michael Conlon's interview is fairly harsh, but maybe it's just because they are sick of being asked about it.
Yeah, you can't blame them for not pushing their current team under the bus.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/other-sports/michael-conlan-keen-fantastic-billy-walsh-stays-in-job-359941.html

I've heard that Walsh was great at keeping a couple of the more wayward boxers on track. I'm sure he managed it in a subtle way too.


Dinny Breen

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 15, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
I'd say in Katie's case the loss of Pete Taylor is a bigger factor than the Billy Walsh exit.
That said, it just goes to show you how tight the margins are in elite preparation. I'd say the Walsh factor was the extra grain of rice that tipped the scales in so many situations. The smallest of bad decisions can have an athlete undercooked, or over trained, or distracted, or tactically misdirected.
Whatever it was that Walsh had probably wasn't obvious to those who claimed there were 20 other coaches in Ireland who could do as good a job as him.

The boxers seem to be holding the party line fairly well. I always assumed that Walsh was extremely well got by the boxers, but maybe not? Michael Conlon's interview is fairly harsh, but maybe it's just because they are sick of being asked about it.

It's not just party line with Conlon, he has to believe his preparation is spot on, he can't admit that Walsh leaving would affect his preparation.

HPU would focus on Lifestyle, technical, physical, tactical and mental. From speaking to one of the S&C coaches Walshes biggest input was on the mental and lifestyle preparation of the boxers. The fact they are coming out blaming referees etc tells me they are not mentally tuned in, these boxers should only be worried about their performance, referees are uncontrollables.

The Finnish boxer trained with the USA, who is over them again?
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easytiger95

Very hard for her - I met her once and she is just as self effacing and humble away from the spotlight as she is when being interviewed. Hope she gets over it, she is an incredible pioneer and sportswoman.

muppet

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 15, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
I'd say in Katie's case the loss of Pete Taylor is a bigger factor than the Billy Walsh exit.
That said, it just goes to show you how tight the margins are in elite preparation. I'd say the Walsh factor was the extra grain of rice that tipped the scales in so many situations. The smallest of bad decisions can have an athlete undercooked, or over trained, or distracted, or tactically misdirected.
Whatever it was that Walsh had probably wasn't obvious to those who claimed there were 20 other coaches in Ireland who could do as good a job as him.

Any chance the loss of Pete Taylor was connected to Walsh's exit?
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highorlow

QuoteAny chance the loss of Pete Taylor was connected to Walsh's exit?

No connection.
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JimStynes

I read on another forum he was caught sneaking about behind the wife's back. This of course could be a load of shite.