2016 Summer Olympics Rio

[screenexile]

Just catching up here lads...why were the yank women's 4X100m team running on their own there about 20 mins ago??

In qualifying the Brazilian knocked the baton out of the Yank's hand on the 2nd changeover so they were allowed to go again!

[moysider]

There is always going to be suspicion and there is always going to be cheating in sport.

In the arms race between cheating and detection, detection will probably always play catch-up if people want to cheat badly enough and some will always want to get an edge.

Athletics gets a shoeing every 4 years and cycling is always under suspicion for good reason. But surely other sports need to be looked at closely as well. We have these double-muscled missiles in rugby now e.g.

[Ball Hopper]

Just catching up here lads...why were the yank women's 4X100m team running on their own there about 20 mins ago??

Screen beat me to it...

Other runners in other events have been reinstated after falling or being tripped, so it is not an exception.

[moysider]

Just catching up here lads...why were the yank women's 4X100m team running on their own there about 20 mins ago??

In qualifying the Brazilian knocked the baton out of the Yank's hand on the 2nd changeover so they were allowed to go again!

The Brazilians were disqualified for messing up. I think that is fair enough. A Jamaican hurdler got a second chance as well a couple of nights ago.
The Irish diver got a redive as well when he claimed to have been distracted during a dive.

[5 Sams]

Thanks lads. Now to keep the eyes open for the 200

[Dinny Breen]

Love to read the data for that Dinny

http://cmajblogs.com/anti-doping-testing-in-athletics/ 

Here you go - interesting stuff.

[moysider]

Interesting indeed.

There needs to be a standard and exact procedure in all countries and any nation that does not comply should be excluded from international competition. How to police that is another matter of course. Can Russia, Kenya etc. be trusted to police their own athletes?

Individual sports seem to get most suspicion - apart from maybe tennis?

But how clean are the team sports? Is American Football clean? Rugby? GAA?

[Ulick]

Just listened to the Barr interview on Newstalk. Very unconvincing even under soft questioning. He had no explanation for running the PB coming off injuries.

How is anybody supposed to improve. If somebody cant improve in their mid 20's when will they?

The injury lay-off probably was a help. He had training in the bank and would have come in a bit under cooked but fresh. That would explain his improvement from race to race this week. The adrenaline kick in final would be a factor too.
It wouldn t surprise me if he ran quicker again if he has a race shortly. He probably didn t even peak this week.

Fair enough. I just got the impression he's been injured for most of the year, with little training in the bank.

[Capt Pat]

I see that Argentina won the hockey final tonight beating Belgium by 4 goals to 2. Argentina only beat Ireland by 3-2 in a winner takes all contest at the end of the group stages. It's a case of what might have been for Ireland.

[bennydorano]

Love to read the data for that Dinny

http://cmajblogs.com/anti-doping-testing-in-athletics/ 

Here you go - interesting stuff.

It is very interesting, poses more questions than provides answers. The Russian data not worth a squirt of piss, the Chinese data would raise an eyebrow too. The 14 tests per Irish elite athlete not as impressive when we're catering for 7 elite athletes.

[muppet]

Love to read the data for that Dinny

http://cmajblogs.com/anti-doping-testing-in-athletics/ 

Here you go - interesting stuff.

It is very interesting, poses more questions than provides answers. The Russian data not worth a squirt of piss, the Chinese data would raise an eyebrow too. The 14 tests per Irish elite athlete not as impressive when we're catering for 7 elite athletes.

And yet we managed 98 tests in total to Britain's 242.

Also interesting the stat regarding an average of 1 top 50 athlete per 1 million population. Any outlier with no proper anti-doing programme shouldn't be allowed to compete. Kenya, Ethiopa and Ukraine should be banned and countries testing at less than an agreed rate (say somewhere between 3 - 5 tests a year MINIMUM) should be suspended.

[moysider]

Love to read the data for that Dinny

http://cmajblogs.com/anti-doping-testing-in-athletics/ 

Here you go - interesting stuff.

It is very interesting, poses more questions than provides answers. The Russian data not worth a squirt of piss, the Chinese data would raise an eyebrow too. The 14 tests per Irish elite athlete not as impressive when we're catering for 7 elite athletes.

But surely every athlete everywhere should get the same testing? Why should the fewer Irish elites get more tests? Or more importantly, why should nations with more athletes get tested less. That does not make sense at all.

[muppet]

Love to read the data for that Dinny

http://cmajblogs.com/anti-doping-testing-in-athletics/ 

Here you go - interesting stuff.

It is very interesting, poses more questions than provides answers. The Russian data not worth a squirt of piss, the Chinese data would raise an eyebrow too. The 14 tests per Irish elite athlete not as impressive when we're catering for 7 elite athletes.

But surely every athlete everywhere should get the same testing? Why should the fewer Irish elites get more tests? Or more importantly, why should nations with more athletes get tested less. That does not make sense at all.

Especially when, for example, they have mountains of medals all funded by the lottery. Could the lottery not fund some proper anti-doping?

[moysider]

Love to read the data for that Dinny

http://cmajblogs.com/anti-doping-testing-in-athletics/ 

Here you go - interesting stuff.

It is very interesting, poses more questions than provides answers. The Russian data not worth a squirt of piss, the Chinese data would raise an eyebrow too. The 14 tests per Irish elite athlete not as impressive when we're catering for 7 elite athletes.

And yet we managed 98 tests in total to Britain's 242.

Also interesting the stat regarding an average of 1 top 50 athlete per 1 million population. Any outlier with no proper anti-doing programme shouldn't be allowed to compete. Kenya, Ethiopa and Ukraine should be banned and countries testing at less than an agreed rate (say somewhere between 3 - 5 tests a year MINIMUM) should be suspended.

Agree. The problem is getting funding to have a neutral testing in all these countries. Logistically as well it is a nightmare. Obviously nations like Russia cant be trusted to police themselves - they are more likely to encourage cheating.

Even independent testers would not fill me with confidence. If Russia can nobble boxing referees and judges (I ve no doubt they did), 'getting at' doping officials would be easy meat for them. Not just the Russians either. Anybody fancy testing North Koreans?

[moysider]

I see that Argentina won the hockey final tonight beating Belgium by 4 goals to 2. Argentina only beat Ireland by 3-2 in a winner takes all contest at the end of the group stages. It's a case of what might have been for Ireland.

Hockey a sport we will always be decent at but maybe not the numbers involved to get a really top team.

Triathlon is another sport that suits us. We have people that can swim, cycle and run to an elite level. There is a possibility that we could get somebody that won t be top in any individual discipline but can do the 3 really well. Like the Brownlees do.
It's getting more and more popular here and there is a young fella that has performed well in world juniors and hopefully that should make the team for Toyko.

There are possibilities. Pity some of our muscle-bound gym-monkeys wouldn't put their 'strength' to some athletic use, rather than posing for selfies!