Player of the Year

[Farrandeelin]

Brogan was atrocious yesterday. He scored heavily in the leinster turkey shoots.

If it was a dry day and the ball stuck he would have scored a fair bit I'd say.

[DuffleKing]

Is that a serious comment?

[moysider]

O'Shea destroyed what was in front of him against Sligo and was also very good against Donegal. His goal against the latter may have been based mainly on strength but have two Donegal defenders been beaten so easily by anyone else?

He still caused danger against Dublin when they generally had three men around him.

He also keeps himself out of trouble despite the very close attention giving to him, from another candidate in particular.

Not a chance, for one he doesn't play for Dublin (All Ireland Champions) but doesn't deserve it either - not even an All star IMO

Don t be silly. Course he's an All-Star.

[Nihilist]

O'Shea destroyed what was in front of him against Sligo and was also very good against Donegal. His goal against the latter may have been based mainly on strength but have two Donegal defenders been beaten so easily by anyone else?

He still caused danger against Dublin when they generally had three men around him.

He also keeps himself out of trouble despite the very close attention giving to him, from another candidate in particular.

Not a chance, for one he doesn't play for Dublin (All Ireland Champions) but doesn't deserve it either - not even an All star IMO

Don t be silly. Course he's an All-Star.

In a FF line bereft of big men who have performed, (alongside smaller men who also haven't) you'd have to think he has a decent chance.
Something alongside the likes of McManus and Brogan. Only one you can see putting him out is possibly Paddy Andrews.

Have the positions come back into now though or is it still the "6" forwards regardless of where they play?

For me it would be

P Harte, C Kilkenny, Diarmuid O'Connor
Brogan, AOS, C McManus

Note - no D Connolly. I don't think he deserves it and also no fw from Kerry either as they were wiped out in 1/2 forward line and in final  O'Donoghue ended up subbed as deemed not good enough.

[moysider]

Brogan was atrocious yesterday. He scored heavily in the leinster turkey shoots.

If it was a dry day and the ball stuck he would have scored a fair bit I'd say.

Of course he would. But you play the conditions and he plays CP every day. He was in front for a lot of good ball and messed up. I was in a Dublin section and they were giving out about an early attempted chip lift when he should have bent his back. He looked like he did not fancy the conditions at all. Still should get his All-Star of course. So should McManus. A shoe-in. As is Aidan O Shea.

[weareros]

In a FF line bereft of big men who have performed, (alongside smaller men who also haven't) you'd have to think he has a decent chance.
Something alongside the likes of McManus and Brogan. Only one you can see putting him out is possibly Paddy Andrews.

Have the positions come back into now though or is it still the "6" forwards regardless of where they play?

For me it would be

P Harte, C Kilkenny, Diarmuid O'Connor
Brogan, AOS, C McManus

Note - no D Connolly. I don't think he deserves it and also no fw from Kerry either as they were wiped out in 1/2 forward line and in final  O'Donoghue ended up subbed as deemed not good enough.

JOD still score 3 great points from play in atrocious conditions against the Dublin backs in 60 mins - should never have been taken off. Aidan O'Shea and Diarmuid O'Connor from your All-Star forwards scored a combined total of 4 points over 140+ mins in perfect conditions. 

[Shannoncider]

Cillian O'Connor has to be a cert, He actually scored a goal from play this year in a big game. He was getting young player of the year and an all star for just kicking frees so surely with the horn the media and "so called" pundits have for him I reckon he will get it

On a serious note if McMahon doesn't get it its a joke head and shoulders above any other player this year

[ballinaman]

Cillian O'Connor has to be a cert, He actually scored a goal from play this year in a big game. He was getting young player of the year and an all star for just kicking frees so surely with the horn the media and "so called" pundits have for him I reckon he will get it

On a serious note if McMahon doesn't get it its a joke head and shoulders above any other player this year

Do you include eyes in that measurenent?

[Tubberman]

Cillian O'Connor has to be a cert, He actually scored a goal from play this year in a big game. He was getting young player of the year and an all star for just kicking frees so surely with the horn the media and "so called" pundits have for him I reckon he will get it

On a serious note if McMahon doesn't get it its a joke head and shoulders above any other player this year

Oh you're back are you? You've kept very quiet since your first post

getting a great laugh out of readying the Sligo boys comments. Lads where in the name of God are ye getting all ye're confidence from God I no Us rossies are prob over confident but at least our team have backed it up this year with promotion have a few good underage teams. Sligo were no good last two years and this years u21 team ye had was probably the worst I have ever seen

[magpie seanie]

Why would where he's from impact on whether he gets player of the year or not? His behaviour might mitigate his chances, but that's hardly related to where he comes from.

You're very naïve if you believe that.

[AZOffaly]

Seriously Seanie? Where he *comes* from? Where was Gerry Hargan from? Barney Rock?

[magpie seanie]

Seriously Seanie? Where he *comes* from? Where was Gerry Hargan from? Barney Rock?

See the posts on the Philly McMahon thread.

It wouldn't bother me but there are plenty in society in general and in positions of power that it would. Mightn't have been as bad when the lads you mention were playing, pre Celtic tiger.

[AZOffaly]

He;s getting abuse because his behaviour was bad, for a good bit of the year. Not because he's from Ballymun. Obviously some people have negative experiences or impressions of Ballymun, but if McMahon conducted himself properly all year, and played to the same level, I can't believe he would be excluded because he's from Ballymun. If anything he'd be lauded as a role model.

[Geoff Tipps]

He;s getting abuse because his behaviour was bad, for a good bit of the year. Not because he's from Ballymun. Obviously some people have negative experiences or impressions of Ballymun, but if McMahon conducted himself properly all year, and played to the same level, I can't believe he would be excluded because he's from Ballymun. If anything he'd be lauded as a role model.

Agreed. He's actually a good role model off the pitch and would be lauded for that.

[macdanger2]

Where he comes from had little or nothing to do with the press he's getting; his own behaviour on the pitch on a few occasions is the reason for it. He's had a great year but there's no need for him to go on with that kind of sh*te.

It would have been poetic justice if Killian Young had scored from the thrown-in he conceded in that incident. Actually, what was the basis of the ref throwing in the ball in that instance? He initially gave a free out I thought and then changed to a hop ball after Donaghy complained about his eye