Irish among dead in balcony collapse

Started by Walter Cronc, June 16, 2015, 01:02:47 PM

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Muck Savage

#15
June 16, 2015, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 16, 2015, 02:06:15 PM
Look like small balconies,  so maybe 14 people was too many. Could be exacerbated if people were dancing or jumping around at a party. Poor kids. Hope the rest pull through.

On quick calculations, say on average they weigh 150lbs, women smaller, men bigger. If 14 were on the balcony then that is over 2100b or over 1 ton weight. Now if they were all jumping to a song or other then this would be more force. Sad

Mikasa

#16
June 16, 2015, 04:11:40 PM
Extremely sad. Hope those injured pull through.

omaghjoe

#17
June 16, 2015, 04:29:09 PM
Just woke up to the shocking news over here

Shocking altogether, may they rest in peace

God be with their families and the injured

squire_in_navy_slacks

#18
June 16, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: Muck Savage on June 16, 2015, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 16, 2015, 02:06:15 PM
Look like small balconies,  so maybe 14 people was too many. Could be exacerbated if people were dancing or jumping around at a party. Poor kids. Hope the rest pull through.

On quick calculations, say on average they weigh 150lbs, women smaller, men bigger. If 14 were on the balcony then that is over 2100b or over 1 ton weight. Now if they were all jumping to a song or other then this would be more force. Sad

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Terrible tragedy. RIP

gawa316

#19
June 16, 2015, 04:53:10 PM
Jeez that is truly awful news.

Was on a J1 in Long Island, NY and it was and still is the best summer of my life. Should have been a time of great memories for these guys...RIP and thoughts go out to all the families back home having to deal with this now.

Tubberman

#20
June 16, 2015, 04:54:29 PM
Reports that a sixth person had died. RIP - a terrible tragedy. God help their families, should have been a great summer for them all.
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Gabriel_Hurl

#21
June 16, 2015, 04:59:36 PM
looks like the balcony was a wooden structure as well

Walter Cronc

#22
June 16, 2015, 05:03:10 PM Last Edit: June 16, 2015, 05:04:47 PM by Walter Cronc
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 16, 2015, 04:59:36 PM
looks like the balcony was a wooden structure as well

The railings perhaps but from the photos the floor looks pre-cast.

Just looking at images of the building and very few balconies. Could these 2 have been added at a later date?

Puckoon

#23
June 16, 2015, 05:12:31 PM
Awful shocking news. You never expect so many lives to change like that. We have our own program here in Reno and the thought of 6 of them being dead this morning is a beyond sobering thought.

Rest In Peace.

moysider

#24
June 16, 2015, 05:53:23 PM

Neighbour and colleague driving his mum to Dublin airport now. They believe his cousin - her niece - is among the dead. Flying over to support. God help the injured and the families of the dead and injured.

J70

#25
June 16, 2015, 06:01:38 PM
Reported on the Journal.ie website that parents from Loreto school in Foxrock were informed that some of the students involved had graduated from there in 2012.

http://www.thejournal.ie/berkeley-balcony-collapse-liveblog-2165000-Jun2015/

Oraisteach

#26
June 16, 2015, 06:12:55 PM
Just awful

Farrandeelin

#27
June 16, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
What can one say? Shocking horrible news for anyone to hear. All so young and going over there to earn a bit, never to come back. Just so sad. May they all RIP.
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theskull1

#28
June 16, 2015, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 16, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 16, 2015, 04:59:36 PM
looks like the balcony was a wooden structure as well

The railings perhaps but from the photos the floor looks pre-cast.

Just looking at images of the building and very few balconies. Could these 2 have been added at a later date?

"While stressing that his assessment was preliminary, St. Onge said, "This appears to be a classic case of there being inadequate waterproofing at the point where the deck meets the house. If the waterproofing is substandard, rainwater can enter the building, causing dry rot, which can destroy the wood members within a short time, i.e. only a few years from construction."


Timber structurally to horizontally support a balcony. Knowing how easy it is for damp to rot timber... that is hard to fathom.

Terrible tragedy

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omaghjoe

#29
June 16, 2015, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 16, 2015, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 16, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 16, 2015, 04:59:36 PM
looks like the balcony was a wooden structure as well

The railings perhaps but from the photos the floor looks pre-cast.

Just looking at images of the building and very few balconies. Could these 2 have been added at a later date?

"While stressing that his assessment was preliminary, St. Onge said, "This appears to be a classic case of there being inadequate waterproofing at the point where the deck meets the house. If the waterproofing is substandard, rainwater can enter the building, causing dry rot, which can destroy the wood members within a short time, i.e. only a few years from construction."


Timber structurally to horizontally support a balcony. Knowing how easy it is for damp to rot timber... that is hard to fathom.

Terrible tragedy

Hmmm Quite... I'm surprised that steel isn't used for a structure like that however Im not a civil engineer or architect so not sure of the reasons why it wouldn't be. Who exactly made that statement skull?

Thoughts still very much with the families tho, terrible tragedy
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