Down Club Hurling & Football

Sheedy · July 07, 2024, 05:55:12 PM

Quote from: Mourne Red on July 07, 2024, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: SuperRed on July 07, 2024, 10:39:34 AMWhat happened in the Longstone v Liatroim game on Friday night? Have both clubs dropped the points, or will there be a replay?

Leitrims tweet which has been since deleted and just as well said "Game abandoned as referee hasn't ability to control the match"

Not the first social media outburst Liatroim have had against a referee

as far as I heard, there was lots of fights and off the ball stuff going on, ref told both managers if it continued he would stop the match, it did so he abandoned the match.

RadioGAAGAA · July 07, 2024, 10:26:57 PM

Quote from: Sheedy on July 07, 2024, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 07, 2024, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: SuperRed on July 07, 2024, 10:39:34 AMWhat happened in the Longstone v Liatroim game on Friday night? Have both clubs dropped the points, or will there be a replay?

Leitrims tweet which has been since deleted and just as well said "Game abandoned as referee hasn't ability to control the match"

Not the first social media outburst Liatroim have had against a referee
as far as I heard, there was lots of fights and off the ball stuff going on, ref told both managers if it continued he would stop the match, it did so he abandoned the match.

Can see pros and cons to this becoming established practice.

Early abandonment in a tight game referee just right - they didn't sign up to referee a boxing match and its hard enough to get referees.

But what if one team knew they were going to lose with 5 mins to go and started rows?

Duine Inteacht Eile · July 07, 2024, 10:42:35 PM

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 07, 2024, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on July 07, 2024, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 07, 2024, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: SuperRed on July 07, 2024, 10:39:34 AMWhat happened in the Longstone v Liatroim game on Friday night? Have both clubs dropped the points, or will there be a replay?

Leitrims tweet which has been since deleted and just as well said "Game abandoned as referee hasn't ability to control the match"

Not the first social media outburst Liatroim have had against a referee
as far as I heard, there was lots of fights and off the ball stuff going on, ref told both managers if it continued he would stop the match, it did so he abandoned the match.

Can see pros and cons to this becoming established practice.

Early abandonment in a tight game referee just right - they didn't sign up to referee a boxing match and its hard enough to get referees.

But what if one team knew they were going to lose with 5 mins to go and started rows?

If that's obvious it will be detailed in the referee's report. Of course, it might not be obvious but if the winning team are happy to engage then it's tough shit really.
On the tweet, that's language I've heard all my life. Field fights involving over 20 men are the fault of the referee as he couldn't control the game. Absolves everyone from having control of themselves.

thewobbler · July 07, 2024, 11:34:43 PM

I do understand the concerns about a precedent being set. Do it enough times and a referee will eventually turn a bout of fisticuffs into a DRA case that the clubs involved cannot lose.

But, still, it's the correct approach. Our games won't tidy themselves up without some introspection and understanding. An early and conclusive whistle will move that along quicker than any county board administration can.

Johnnysboys · July 09, 2024, 03:21:00 PM

Referees have a very difficult job and we have a severe shortage of them.. when a referee asks management to calm their players down and the players don't react appropriately - he is dead right to walk off the pitch. It's called having respect and the teams clearly had very little to none for each other and for the person in charge of officiating the game..

downtothecore · July 09, 2024, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: Johnnysboys on July 09, 2024, 03:21:00 PMReferees have a very difficult job and we have a severe shortage of them.. when a referee asks management to calm their players down and the players don't react appropriately - he is dead right to walk off the pitch. It's called having respect and the teams clearly had very little to none for each other and for the person in charge of officiating the game..

Agree

Sheedy · July 12, 2024, 01:39:49 PM

Quiet build up on here to tomorrow's match. Hopefully the team can get the job done after disappointing days in croke park recently against Meath and Westmeath. For me, going by the team named it would be a surprise if Ceilium Doherty doesn't start and maybe also Finn McElroy.

Hopefully a big Down support travelling down, good luck to players and management

ardtole · July 12, 2024, 09:30:06 PM

I heard Celium Doherty was injured, not sure how serious or accurate that information is though.

ardtole · July 12, 2024, 09:31:15 PM

I could see McGovern starting in place of McCrickard.

AnDúnAbú94 · July 13, 2024, 09:38:11 AM

Down should win this today considering last year. But our record in finals is cause for concern and I don't think it'll be straightforward. I'd also be absolutely shocked if there aren't at least 3 changes from the named team. My guess is Doherty, McElroy and McGovern for Flynn, J Guinness and McCrickard. I hope Kerr starts at least.

Johnnysboys · July 13, 2024, 04:49:55 PM

Unbelievable display. I can't wait for Sam Maguire football next year. We are back..

Lloyd p · July 13, 2024, 08:16:18 PM

Finals are all about winning and nothing else. Not the best performance for sure but they'll take it all day and good progress made with division 2 and Sam Maguire football to look forward too. Fair play to the lads and all involved!

On another note Armagh in the all Ireland final and only beat Down by a point in Ulster semi final. Maybe not just as far away as people think...

Mikhailov · July 13, 2024, 09:53:56 PM

Quote from: Johnnysboys on July 13, 2024, 04:49:55 PMUnbelievable display. I can't wait for Sam Maguire football next year. We are back..

By the way, it was Laois you beat. They are Division 4 FFS

downtothecore · July 13, 2024, 10:28:43 PM

Quote from: Mikhailov on July 13, 2024, 09:53:56 PM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on July 13, 2024, 04:49:55 PMUnbelievable display. I can't wait for Sam Maguire football next year. We are back..

By the way, it was Laois you beat. They are Division 4 FFS

We are currently 1 level higher in duv 3 so no big difference and laois are progressing in the right direction with good management.

snoopdog · July 13, 2024, 10:54:33 PM

Quote from: Lloyd p on July 13, 2024, 08:16:18 PMFinals are all about winning and nothing else. Not the best performance for sure but they'll take it all day and good progress made with division 2 and Sam Maguire football to look forward too. Fair play to the lads and all involved!

On another note Armagh in the all Ireland final and only beat Down by a point in Ulster semi final. Maybe not just as far away as people think...

Down were nervous at stages. Better team today buy gifted Laois 1.01 in 1st half kept them in the game. Great goal at death by laois to make it a nervous finish. Down delighted to get over that line.
Fantastic all ireland semi and our neighbours very deserving winners and all ireland finalists. Well done to both Down and Armagh today. Donegal to complete ulster sweep tomorrow.