Down Club Hurling & Football

[wobbller]

Difficult one to answer, not that popular among the players by all accounts as well.

There are similar thoughts about James also.Communication terrible and going on the two alcohol episodes there appears to no respect to the Management.Respect is usually earned but is non existent from both sides.

So here we are at the end of 6 months into this Management regime.One draw and 10 defeats.James spent the afternoon shouting at the players and getting into needless confrontation with Officials and a Cavan player.He also appeared to be late onto the sideline at the start of the match.Losing credibility with everyone after achieving legend status up to about 2010.

[general_lee]

I think James McCartan deserves credit for stepping up to the plate in the first place. He took on a team nobody wanted, and for good reason. There's clearly no pride in the Down jersey anymore.

[wobbller]

I think James McCartan deserves credit for stepping up to the plate in the first place. He took on a team nobody wanted, and for good reason. There's clearly no pride in the Down jersey anymore.

Great credit indeed for stepping up but now time to step away.

[general_lee]

I think James McCartan deserves credit for stepping up to the plate in the first place. He took on a team nobody wanted, and for good reason. There's clearly no pride in the Down jersey anymore.

Great credit indeed for stepping up but now time to step away.

If Down can find someone who players will play for then 100% he should, I just don't think there will be too many takers. Laverty maybe, perhaps if supporters and players accept the level they're at and that they need to rebuild. We had the same with McGeeney in Armagh yo-yoing between Div  2 and 3  with a lot of fans wanting him out, when the reality was he had limited playing resources at his disposal and it was unlikely that any successor would have done much much better.

[Lotto]

No one could ever question the passion of Mc Cartan and his love for Down. He dug us out of a very big hole when a mess was created by sheer incompetence beyond his control. While he thought he was doing the right thing himself, taking an unpopular No.2 in O'Rourke who the lads hated and another inexperienced coach in Mc Mahon who was well out of his depth, he was always rowing against the tide. The Dublin debacle actually brought the lads closer by all accounts but the whole thing has been a shitshow from the start. We're in a bad place but Tailteann Cup level is our standard. Slabbering in the papers won't help, we have too many prima donnas who will be posting pictures from Ginger Janes again tonight. I have no idea how we get out of this mess but we are in a very sorry state atm.

[SamFever]

 All very demoralising at present.If James has stepped down he has the thanks of everyone in Down but a serious selection panel should be appointed and be left to it but have an Appointment done by the end of July.This could be crazy but how about James as a member of the selection Committee.He knows what would be needed.

[Johnnysboys]

All very demoralising at present.If James has stepped down he has the thanks of everyone in Down but a serious selection panel should be appointed and be left to it but have an Appointment done by the end of July.This could be crazy but how about James as a member of the selection Committee.He knows what would be needed.

The end of July??? Why would it take 2 months ffs?? Just go get the person everyone wants into the hot seat right now. Stop wasting even more time appointing an appointment committee. We are beyond that - go knock Laverty's door and get him.

[Hard2Listen2]

Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
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[Lotto]

Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
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He hasn't the balls for it. There is a decent U.20 squad next year so he will stay in his comfort zone. O'Rourke will dominate Derry with Glen so why would he move to a group of lads who think they are better than they are.  Tailteann Cup is where we are and we have to accept that.

[Hard2Listen2]

Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
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He hasn't the balls for it. There is a decent U.20 squad next year so he will stay in his comfort zone. O'Rourke will dominate Derry with Glen so why would he move to a group of lads who think they are better than they are.  Tailteann Cup is where we are and we have to accept that.

Very simple 💰

[Sheedy]

Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
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Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

[rosskarr]

Has James stood down?

[marty34]

Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
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Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

What has Mc Entee done to deserve to be in the mix?

[thewobbler]

Why waste money on big name managers and exhaustive back room teams?

It's too early for that.

Down need, first and foremost, a clean sweep of the cohort of players who've regressed individually and collectively over the past 5 years.

Find a man who's willing to do that, and rebuild Down from the bottom up. I don't care if we've never heard of him. That's the role, and it's not a role for someone who is used to fine tuning the pick of the litter.

[Sheedy]

Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??

Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

What has Mc Entee done to deserve to be in the mix?

what has poacher done? It's just a list of names, some will be ruled out quicker than others