Down Club Hurling & Football

[Sheedy]

Kingdom looking for new management team

[nrico2006]

well done to kilcoo, most of south down wont be happy though 
On another note our county footballers were beaten well by an armagh second string outfit on saturday morning

There were quite a number of starters playing, including Mooney.  Armagh's side was essentially a team made up of players who hadn't played in the league so far.

[SamFever]

Does anyone know if Breannain McComiskey got a county trial?

Is he not from your neck of the woods? The East

[Hard2Listen2]

Kingdom looking for new management team

Is Bernie Ruane not with them again?

[lumpitin]

Conor laverty stating he is not for retiring!
What kilcoo players do we think will join up with the down squad?

[clubman21]

Conor laverty stating he is not for retiring!
What kilcoo players do we think will join up with the down squad?

3 jonhstons, mcevoy, ward, devlin, doherty and rooney deserving of a go.

[smort]

Conor laverty stating he is not for retiring!
What kilcoo players do we think will join up with the down squad?

3 jonhstons, mcevoy, ward, devlin, doherty and rooney deserving of a go.

are the branagans not interested? i'm an outsider btw, don't know if there are politics are anything involved

[clubman21]

Conor laverty stating he is not for retiring!
What kilcoo players do we think will join up with the down squad?

3 jonhstons, mcevoy, ward, devlin, doherty and rooney deserving of a go.

are the branagans not interested? i'm an outsider btw, don't know if there are politics are anything involved

Eugene and Daryl definitely good enough just don't think it's for them. Would be great to see.

[thebar]

With Kilcoo now All Ireland Champions the question is can anyone realistically expect to beat these men or are we set for another decade of dominance from Kilcoo? Personally can't see any team stopping them in Down for the foreseeable and not sure if this is a good or bad thing. It has to be said they have taken the whole approach to club football up to a serious level and I'm not sure many teams have the appetite to compete with it.

[Truth hurts]

With Kilcoo now All Ireland Champions the question is can anyone realistically expect to beat these men or are we set for another decade of dominance from Kilcoo? Personally can't see any team stopping them in Down for the foreseeable and not sure if this is a good or bad thing. It has to be said they have taken the whole approach to club football up to a serious level and I'm not sure many teams have the appetite to compete with it.

Bryansford dominated
Burren dominated
Mayobridge dominated
This is Kilcoos time, it will come to an end sometime, that's just a fact of life. It's the middle of February, in two months there is a league to be played for, a new championship to be played for in August, that's only 6 months away! Teams should be excited that there is a chance to play the all Ireland champions this season. It's a free go!

[Mourne Red]

With Kilcoo now All Ireland Champions the question is can anyone realistically expect to beat these men or are we set for another decade of dominance from Kilcoo? Personally can't see any team stopping them in Down for the foreseeable and not sure if this is a good or bad thing. It has to be said they have taken the whole approach to club football up to a serious level and I'm not sure many teams have the appetite to compete with it.

They definitely can be beat they've a glaring weakness in defence that if management teams planned properly could expose with good free-takers and the exploitation of the Mark Rule. The full back line doesn't have the legs and sit quite narrow so using the mark to get the ball out wide would allow teams to tip over points providing they've reliable scorers from the dead ball

[Walter Cronc]

With Kilcoo now All Ireland Champions the question is can anyone realistically expect to beat these men or are we set for another decade of dominance from Kilcoo? Personally can't see any team stopping them in Down for the foreseeable and not sure if this is a good or bad thing. It has to be said they have taken the whole approach to club football up to a serious level and I'm not sure many teams have the appetite to compete with it.

They definitely can be beat they've a glaring weakness in defence that if management teams planned properly could expose with good free-takers and the exploitation of the Mark Rule. The full back line doesn't have the legs and sit quite narrow so using the mark to get the ball out wide would allow teams to tip over points providing they've reliable scorers from the dead ball

McEvoy is a serious athlete at FB. Moran uses him very much like he did Rogers at Slaughtneil to break forward and create initial overlaps for Branagan x2 to thrive on. I'd agree though that the mark could be an option to exploit them. However kicking under that sustained pressure and into a wall of defenders isn't easy. I think the keeper should be targeted by teams more. In the first 10/15 minutes against us (Glen) I couldn't get over the intensity of Kilcoo. However once our boys settled they definitely began to work them out better. Is it a case of Burren & Warrenpoint being excellent teams or does familiarity with Kilcoo's style of play/knowing how to play against it ensure they push them close in the Down championship?

[thebar]

With Kilcoo now All Ireland Champions the question is can anyone realistically expect to beat these men or are we set for another decade of dominance from Kilcoo? Personally can't see any team stopping them in Down for the foreseeable and not sure if this is a good or bad thing. It has to be said they have taken the whole approach to club football up to a serious level and I'm not sure many teams have the appetite to compete with it.

Bryansford dominated
Burren dominated
Mayobridge dominated
This is Kilcoos time, it will come to an end sometime, that's just a fact of life. It's the middle of February, in two months there is a league to be played for, a new championship to be played for in August, that's only 6 months away! Teams should be excited that there is a chance to play the all Ireland champions this season. It's a free go!

Correct bud but being honest those 3 teams you named dominated for a decade before the those great teams naturally broke up due to age and had nothing coming after them at that level. Kilcoo have had a decade of dominance (more even) and as opposed to coming to an end they have just won an All Ireland with more in the tank for the future so its to simplistic to say Kilcoo's time will come to an end some time...of course it will but they aren't taking the foot of the pedal any time soon. Could they dominant for another decade? Wouldn't rule it out. 

[manwithnoplan]

With Kilcoo now All Ireland Champions the question is can anyone realistically expect to beat these men or are we set for another decade of dominance from Kilcoo? Personally can't see any team stopping them in Down for the foreseeable and not sure if this is a good or bad thing. It has to be said they have taken the whole approach to club football up to a serious level and I'm not sure many teams have the appetite to compete with it.

They definitely can be beat they've a glaring weakness in defence that if management teams planned properly could expose with good free-takers and the exploitation of the Mark Rule. The full back line doesn't have the legs and sit quite narrow so using the mark to get the ball out wide would allow teams to tip over points providing they've reliable scorers from the dead ball

It's a shame for Kilmacud you weren't along the line for them!

[Johnnysboys]

McEvoy is a serious athlete at FB. Moran uses him very much like he did Rogers at Slaughtneil to break forward and create initial overlaps for Branagan x2 to thrive on. I'd agree though that the mark could be an option to exploit them. However kicking under that sustained pressure and into a wall of defenders isn't easy. I think the keeper should be targeted by teams more. In the first 10/15 minutes against us (Glen) I couldn't get over the intensity of Kilcoo. However once our boys settled they definitely began to work them out better. Is it a case of Burren & Warrenpoint being excellent teams or does familiarity with Kilcoo's style of play/knowing how to play against it ensure they push them close in the Down championship?
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If ur saying these two are excellent teams - Kilcoo must be off the charts. It's actually worrying for us as a county that they are winning an all Ireland 13 years after their dominance began. I spent a while today listening to Laverty's podcast with BBC. Very enjoyable I must say. Lads not drinking for years and training like the hammers of hell individually and collectively has taken them to the top. Whilst it wasn't really a surprise to me that hard work won it - what are the rest of us doing as clubs?
Speaking about my own club - there are so many personalities training underage teams that no one in their right mind wud be underage development officer and try to implement what's necessary to feed into a senior team. There would be clashes galore between football and hurling and from one manager to the next about what their teams should be doing at certain stages of development.  At senior level we have a bunch of men/boys who gripe at everything. They want to win so so bad - but are they willing to really put their lives on hold to get over the line - I don't think they are. I honestly feel this is how high the bar has now been set by Kilcoo. If your lads are not willing to make sacrifices beyond the normal training 2/3 times per week etc - they will not dine at the top table..