Down Club Hurling & Football

Started by Lecale2, November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 AM

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Truth hurts

You won your first senior title (1/2 title) in nearly 70 years, you should be grateful. What did the players not sense? Blame the management again scenario!

Smurfy123

Blame the management again when I just said NMA took us to a very high level?
I didn't blame management
I said players sensed that things didn't go to a higher level
The reason you take in a manager is to try get the players to a higher level than the previous manager
Truth u said on the 4th that you fancied Clonduff for the Frank O Hare cup and a few posts later tipped Kilcoo Burren for the final
Now i think what you say will be taken with a pinch

Truth hurts

Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 06, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Blame the management again when I just said NMA took us to a very high level?
I didn't blame management
I said players sensed that things didn't go to a higher level
The reason you take in a manager is to try get the players to a higher level than the previous manager
Truth u said on the 4th that you fancied Clonduff for the Frank O Hare cup and a few posts later tipped Kilcoo Burren for the final
Now i think what you say will be taken with a pinch

Maybe it's the fault of the players? Did they commit enough?

sdg

Quote from: Truth hurts on October 06, 2021, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 06, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Blame the management again when I just said NMA took us to a very high level?
I didn't blame management
I said players sensed that things didn't go to a higher level
The reason you take in a manager is to try get the players to a higher level than the previous manager
Truth u said on the 4th that you fancied Clonduff for the Frank O Hare cup and a few posts later tipped Kilcoo Burren for the final
Now i think what you say will be taken with a pinch

Maybe it's the fault of the players? Did they commit enough?

Player's definitely didn't commit fully, but the management played them.

Smurfy123

I don't know of any player who didn't fully commit?
If they didn't commit they wouldn't be on the panel

Godsown

Can this discussion not be about teams still left in the championship

Smurfy123


Truth hurts

It looked to me that NMCA took a no-shit bullshit approach and ensured that Gaelic was first and foremost in everyone's mind and that soccer was cast aside. . All in all a league title is a massive achievement and you should be very grateful to the management and players for delivering it. Looking all your underage, you seem to be playing a lot in B and C sections which with the population should not be happening. Newry, Warrenpoint, Castlewellan, and Downpatrick clubs have the population to ensure that their underage teams are not in div 3 or 4 competitions.

Smurfy123

All grades outside A except for our under 15s
It may be a while before we win the senior championship
The hurt of this year is the only way I can see one last kick in this team but that's what it will be. A last kick.
It will all depend if any retirements happen

elk

Quote from: sdg on October 06, 2021, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 06, 2021, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 06, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Blame the management again when I just said NMA took us to a very high level?
I didn't blame management
I said players sensed that things didn't go to a higher level
The reason you take in a manager is to try get the players to a higher level than the previous manager
Truth u said on the 4th that you fancied Clonduff for the Frank O Hare cup and a few posts later tipped Kilcoo Burren for the final
Now i think what you say will be taken with a pinch

Maybe it's the fault of the players? Did they commit enough?

Player's definitely didn't commit fully, but the management played them.
So you blame the management then

Smurfy123

No I didn't blame anyone
I said things were not taken to a higher level than what the previous manager did
That's what was expected
The players have to take responsibility too
That said I believe this group have 1 last kick in them if they really want it
I also believe the current management will be preparing already for next season
With this years extended season clubs don't have much time to plan for next season regarding new managers etc

SamFever

Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 07, 2021, 08:53:39 AM
No I didn't blame anyone
I said things were not taken to a higher level than what the previous manager did
That's what was expected
The players have to take responsibility too
That said I believe this group have 1 last kick in them if they really want it
I also believe the current management will be preparing already for next season
With this years extended season clubs don't have much time to plan for next season regarding new managers etc
Extended?

Truth hurts

Going by the previews it seems that Caryduff and Mayobridge have no chance this weekend.
Will there be any intermediate games on Down Tv this weekend?

Nanderson

Quote from: Truth hurts on October 07, 2021, 10:51:30 AM
Going by the previews it seems that Caryduff and Mayobridge have no chance this weekend.
Will there be any intermediate games on Down Tv this weekend?
no 4 senior games plus loughinisland bryansford relegation match

Johnnysboys

It actually makes me laugh when people talk about NMCA taking our club to a new level - he did no such thing. Won absolutely f**k all in his tenure and that's what success is based on. Not taking s**t from players is one thing - but players not being allowed to play for their own club teams because a blow in getting £££ (and a very hefty back room team) is dictating is completely wrong.
At same time I feel Mulholland made mistake this year letting players who trained only a month play championship. Setting those type standards is not what wins year in year out.
If we want to compete - we need to compete at top level at all underage teams, we need to freshen up the senior team every year with 2-4 players putting themselves forward for consideration. But these players need a chance to play. No point playing the same old every year especially when they have proven on the championship stage they can't cut it..