Round 4 Qualfier: Kildare v Monaghan

[straightred]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

[Maguire01]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Yep, the free awarded against Drew Wylie near the end was ridiculous. It was nice to see the resulting free go wide.

[Go home ref]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

[straightred]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

Listen - it was a foul. Soft or not. However the one against Wylie wasn't as there was absolutely no contact. You got your gift and then missed it. Get over it.

[Maguire01]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

If neither of the TWO defenders on McManus are able to get out in front or win the ball cleanly when it is kicked in, then it's clearly the fault of the ref and not the defenders.

[Bord na Mona man]

Decent game given the conditions.
I thought they robots were going to push on and win in extra time as they were just starting to kick decent points, but you'd have to admire Monaghan's doggedness.

Bolton's black card felt like a key moment as Kildare lost their way for about 10 minutes after and were nearly 5 points down when Monaghan missed the goal chance. Only a few minutes earlier Kildare nearly went 7 points up with a similar chance.

Both defences looked ill at ease in the conditions and were a little quick to foul when the pressure was on. I don't think the ref was a swing factor. He missed a few fouls as well as blowing harshly for others.
It's set up perfectly for Monaghan against Dublin.

[Go home ref]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

If neither of the TWO defenders on McManus are able to get out in front or win the ball cleanly when it is kicked in, then it's clearly the fault of the ref and not the defenders.

No it's the refs fault for giving a nonsense decision so Monaghan could get the draw and of course it's not his fault McManus got to the ball 1st but you can't just give a free for nothing because the forward gets the ball 1st that's just nonsense

[Go home ref]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

Listen - it was a foul. Soft or not. However the one against Wylie wasn't as there was absolutely no contact. You got your gift and then missed it. Get over it.

It was never a foul FFS!

[straightred]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

Listen - it was a foul. Soft or not. However the one against Wylie wasn't as there was absolutely no contact. You got your gift and then missed it. Get over it.

It was never a foul FFS!

We'll just have to agree to differ then. IMO over the course of the game Kildare got more than their fair share of decisions, they should have been down to 14 early in the 2nd half and in the end the better team won

[Go home ref]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

Listen - it was a foul. Soft or not. However the one against Wylie wasn't as there was absolutely no contact. You got your gift and then missed it. Get over it.

It was never a foul FFS!

We'll just have to agree to differ then. IMO over the course of the game Kildare got more than their fair share of decisions, they should have been down to 14 early in the 2nd half and in the end the better team won

We will and in fairness to Monaghan they punished us in the 1st half of extra time punished our mistakes an won the game from there they forced a good few turnovers and that's what cost us but it's just hard to take with Colrick as it's not the 1st time he's rode and I can't help but think it's because he's from a part of Meath very close to Kildare

[Maguire01]

The amount of turnovers we conceded in the 1st half of extra time was unreal and it cost us but it should never of got that far Coldrick is an absolute disgrace rode us from start to finish kept Monaghan in the game by himself the free at the end was a disgusting decision all you can ask for is fairness and Kildare didn't get that last night

If the ref was doing his job then Bolton would have got either a black or a yellow in the first half for his professional foul. Amazing leniency there. If it was a yellow and not a black (which is what I think it should have been) then Kildare would have been down to 14 in the 2nd half when he did get his black

If you want to talk soft frees look at one of the ones that Kildare got near then end on the cusack stand side. They missed it but that's hardly the refs fault.

Overall the better team one but I doubt that the dubs are losing sleep

Oh will you stop Kildare had the game won and Coldrick rescued it for Monaghan with a joke of a decision. He gave soft after soft free in the 1st half to keep Monghan in it also and Mc Manus spent spent more time diving on the ground than on his feet.

If neither of the TWO defenders on McManus are able to get out in front or win the ball cleanly when it is kicked in, then it's clearly the fault of the ref and not the defenders.

No it's the refs fault for giving a nonsense decision so Monaghan could get the draw and of course it's not his fault McManus got to the ball 1st but you can't just give a free for nothing because the forward gets the ball 1st that's just nonsense

The frees weren't given for nothing. You might call them soft, maybe some of them were. I was at the game and wasn't close to the action where the last free in normal time was given, so can't comment on that one specifically. But if two defenders can't cleanly win the ball against one forward, then there's no point in crying about the ref. It's clear that some 'soft' frees were awarded both ways - that will always be the way. Equally, the referee will fail to take action where he should - like when McGuinness was fouled going through on goal.

[Wildweasel74]

maybe soft put there was a push on McManus at the end and it was a free, i thought originally the ref was taking the easy way out and play for extra time but replay showed it to be a foul

[Dinny Breen]

Coldrick was good in the Down game, Monaghan like most Ulster teams are better tacklers than most, our defensive discipline in close quarters has been poor this year and definitely a work on for next year. It was a soft free but the referee is low down on the list of reasons why we lost.

[Go home ref]

Coldrick was good in the Down game, Monaghan like most Ulster teams are better tacklers than most, our defensive discipline in close quarters has been poor this year and definitely a work on for next year. It was a soft free but the referee is low down on the list of reasons why we lost.

We lost it in the 1st half of extra time with many sloppy turnovers and awful defending for the goal but its hard to take when a free like that is given and there is no way in hell he'd of given that up the other end but in saying that I wish Monaghan all the best in the next round and hopefully they will play like they did in the 2nd half and in 1st half extra time rather than how they played in the 1st half or they'll be in big trouble the next day

[Donnellys Hollow]

Coldrick was good in the Down game, Monaghan like most Ulster teams are better tacklers than most, our defensive discipline in close quarters has been poor this year and definitely a work on for next year. It was a soft free but the referee is low down on the list of reasons why we lost.

Yeah it looked a soft enough call at the time (haven't seen a replay of it) but we have to learn how to play a referee. Most referees will blow for the foul in that situation when the attacking team are only a point down in injury time. We did the exact same thing down in Ennis and Clare kicked the free wide.