Long Kesh Park takes another step forward

Started by Donagh, April 16, 2007, 12:37:11 PM

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SammyG

Quote from: snatter on June 22, 2007, 09:38:54 AM2. Creating separate facilities whose usage does reflect the whole committee is so agaisnt the grain of the Govt.'s new Shared Spaces policy.   
   People need to realise that the Govt is trying to teach all us natives a lesson here - either start sharing and co-operating, or you get nothing.
   Its possible theat the Govt might publicly do a U-turn, but imho, its more likely tht they'd teach us all a lesson adn tell us to fcuk off.
   Remember that Brown is no friend of NI in the way that Blair was. He looks at teh per capita funding we get in NI compared to his own Scotland and thinks we're ungrateful spongers who get too much already.

Again with the shared space nonsense. The only people who are stopping a shared space being created are the GAA.

snatter

Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: snatter on June 22, 2007, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: snatter on June 22, 2007, 09:38:54 AMMY guess is that the OWC brigade and unreconstructed unionists would be the loudest to complain at us getting significantly more money.

   It would be a sectarian bunfight of the highest order.

Truely pathetic comment. How can the IFA which is completely non-sectarian and has players, supporters and officials from all creeds, be accused of being in a sectarian bunfight? What was it you were saying about masks slipping?

Sammy,

sorry, but on my computer it reads
QuoteOWC brigade and unreconstructed unionists
.

I've searched and can't find the letters IFA anywhere in my post.
Your speed reading is letting you down again!  :D  :D

So what did you mean by OWC 'brigade' then? I took it to be short hand for NI football, maybe I'm wrong.

OWC brigade?
Frequent posters on a certain website called www.ourweecountry.co.uk (OWC for short) several of whom, in their deluded crusade for a wee place of their own, consistently ignore the needs of larger, much better attended NI spectator sports, like gaelic football.

Bensars

Dr No has spoken Sammy. No Stadium near sunday schools.

You will have to get used to getting of your arse and driving a wee bit, because all signs point to the Maze.

SammyG

Quote from: snatter on June 22, 2007, 10:29:56 AM
OWC brigade?
Frequent posters on a certain website called www.ourweecountry.co.uk (OWC for short) several of whom, in their deluded crusade for a wee place of their own, consistently ignore the needs of larger, much better attended NI spectator sports, like gaelic football.

Yet more lies. I have not seen one post on OWC that suggests that the GAA or anybody else should be ignored. The vast majority are happy to share a stadium and the small number who think that sharing is impractical are still happy for the GAA to recieve funding, if the IFA go it alone.

SammyG

Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
Dr No has spoken Sammy. No Stadium near sunday schools.

Luckily Dr No has fcuk all do to with the decision.
Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
You will have to get used to getting of your arse and driving a wee bit, because all signs point to the Maze.

Aye right because that's the problem.  ::)

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: snatter on June 22, 2007, 10:29:56 AM
OWC brigade?
Frequent posters on a certain website called www.ourweecountry.co.uk (OWC for short) several of whom, in their deluded crusade for a wee place of their own, consistently ignore the needs of larger, much better attended NI spectator sports, like gaelic football.

Yet more lies. I have not seen one post on OWC that suggests that the GAA or anybody else should be ignored. The vast majority are happy to share a stadium and the small number who think that sharing is impractical are still happy for the GAA to recieve funding, if the IFA go it alone.



Sammy was on OWC last night and read a number of posts from various regulars on that board who suggested that "someone" (willie frazer got a mention) should buldoze the hospital block at Long Kesh to stop the Peace and Conflict Reconciliation Centre being built, care to comment??
Tbc....

SammyG

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 22, 2007, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: snatter on June 22, 2007, 10:29:56 AM
OWC brigade?
Frequent posters on a certain website called www.ourweecountry.co.uk (OWC for short) several of whom, in their deluded crusade for a wee place of their own, consistently ignore the needs of larger, much better attended NI spectator sports, like gaelic football.

Yet more lies. I have not seen one post on OWC that suggests that the GAA or anybody else should be ignored. The vast majority are happy to share a stadium and the small number who think that sharing is impractical are still happy for the GAA to recieve funding, if the IFA go it alone.



Sammy was on OWC last night and read a number of posts from various regulars on that board who suggested that "someone" (willie frazer got a mention) should buldoze the hospital block at Long Kesh to stop the Peace and Conflict Reconciliation Centre being built, care to comment??

Seems like a reasonable idea










(note to the easily offended, as with the original OWC posts this is a JOKE)

Bensars

Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
Dr No has spoken Sammy. No Stadium near sunday schools.

Luckily Dr No has fcuk all do to with the decision.
Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
You will have to get used to getting of your arse and driving a wee bit, because all signs point to the Maze.

Aye right because that's the problem.  ::)

Cant see Edwin going against the wishes of papa doc and thr christain ethos of the DUP.

Reading between the lines of his statement earlier in the week, and the timescale for any Belfast proposal to be on the table, in my opinion it was, get your plans in, but we're going to the maze anyway

SammyG

Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
Dr No has spoken Sammy. No Stadium near sunday schools.

Luckily Dr No has fcuk all do to with the decision.
Quote from: Bensars on June 22, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
You will have to get used to getting of your arse and driving a wee bit, because all signs point to the Maze.

Aye right because that's the problem.  ::)

Cant see Edwin going against the wishes of papa doc and thr christain ethos of the DUP.

Reading between the lines of his statement earlier in the week, and the timescale for any Belfast proposal to be on the table, in my opinion it was, get your plans in, but we're going to the maze anyway

You didn't need to read between the lines, that's exactly what Poots said. Unfortunately for Poots, he's now an elected Minister and has to follow the rules and processes, he can't just make arbitrary decisions or impose deadlines.

Donagh

Paisley Mor has come out agin the Ormeau Park venue – doesn't want his congregation at the Martyrs Memorial having to face the "greyhound run" on their way to Sunday School. Didn't get that one, sure the IFA don't play soccer on a Sunday, who does he mean?

SammyG

Robinson (who signs the cheque) has just told the BBC, that he hasn't seen a business case and won't allow ANY project to proceed until he does. Given that Poots has refused to publish a business case (for nearly 3 years) things could be about to get interesting.

SammyG

Quote from: Donagh on June 22, 2007, 12:37:59 PM
Paisley Mor has come out agin the Ormeau Park venue – doesn't want his congregation at the Martyrs Memorial having to face the "greyhound run" on their way to Sunday School. Didn't get that one, sure the IFA don't play soccer on a Sunday, who does he mean?

Donagh

As already covered a few posts ago, Paisleys rants are totally irrelevant to the Ormeau site as he has no input to the decision making process.

snatter

Quote from: Donagh on June 22, 2007, 12:37:59 PM
Paisley Mor has come out agin the Ormeau Park venue – doesn't want his congregation at the Martyrs Memorial having to face the "greyhound run" on their way to Sunday School. Didn't get that one, sure the IFA don't play soccer on a Sunday, who does he mean?

I'm sure he wouldn't be too happy about 42k GAA fans marching past the Martys Memorial on the sabbath either.

Colonel Cool

Quote from: SammyG on June 22, 2007, 10:40:30 AM

Luckily Dr No has fcuk all do to with the decision.


Any decision on a stadium that requires public funds will require the support of DFP and then have to be endorsed by the full Executive. Dr No and Marty have a veto on the agenda for Executive meetings.
If Dr No doesn't like any proposal he vetoes it and it doesn't even get discussed.
I'm not Homer Simpson. That ship has sailed. I'm "Colonel Cool"!

snatter

Quote from: snatter on June 21, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: SammyG on June 21, 2007, 03:01:52 PM
Quote from: snatter on June 21, 2007, 01:42:06 PMTo be honest its pointless debating this one with you any further. All Clones attending GAA fans laugh at you guys whinging about going from Belfast to teh MAze, but you guys think it will be some sort of epic journey, taking half a day to get there.
I guess only a qualified traffic engineer would be able to accurately study journey times of those who would use any new stadium.

Sorry I missed this earlier, a qualified traffic engineer (in fact several) have looked at the proposals and have all deemed them to be unworkable, that is the whole point of this discussion. I'm not opposed to the Maze on some point of principle (in fact when it was first mentioned I supported it), I'm opposed because it won't work.

News to me.
Can you give me a link to their findings?
What were their assumptions on attendance numbers, the origin of most fans, and their mode of travel?

Still waiting............