Is there a total disconnect between GAA Officialdom and the grass roots?

[roney]

BBC, ITV and C4 had no interest in taking GAA so they went with the only TV corporation that did, Sky. They'd you not listen to the GAA explain this?

That applies in the UK only. Not worldwide. They used this fudge to sell it as 'the diaspora'. The Sky part matters only to those people in England etc for which people in Ireland have to pay. That's basically the nuts and bolts of it. Agree?

The fact is that the flashy graphics and thoughts of newly quiffed presenters shot the load of the paid staff in Croke Park. It moves the thing on. It justifies their existence the same as giant puppets on All-Ireland final  day. That's all that matters.

We are told that the deal is only marginally better financially than the last. The '85% reinvestment' would have still been there.

The whole thing is about the future of advertising and the most disappointing thing of all is that good GAA men in leadership positions have been forced to come out and defend it as some sort of disapora thing. Total and utter lies and bullshit of which they should be eternally ashamed.

The media have also largely lapped it up for fear of rocking the boat. It's a media deal afterall.

[roney]

Sky do not operate in the US.

Am not aware of the ins and outs but if that is true then it only further proves that this 'disapora' line which we have been fed and which the GAA hierarchy told the Oireachtas Committee is complete shite.

Can anyone explain how the pay per view element of the new media rights deal benefits anyone outside of those with Sky in the UK?

[Catch and Kick]

 

BBC, ITV and C4 had no interest in taking GAA so they went with the only TV corporation that did, Sky. They'd you not listen to the GAA explain this?

That applies in the UK only. Not worldwide. They used this fudge to sell it as 'the diaspora'. The Sky part matters only to those people in England etc for which people in Ireland have to pay. That's basically the nuts and bolts of it. Agree?

The fact is that the flashy graphics and thoughts of newly quiffed presenters shot the load of the paid staff in Croke Park. It moves the thing on. It justifies their existence the same as giant puppets on All-Ireland final  day. That's all that matters.

We are told that the deal is only marginally better financially than the last. The '85% reinvestment' would have still been there.

The whole thing is about the future of advertising and the most disappointing thing of all is that good GAA men in leadership positions have been forced to come out and defend it as some sort of disapora thing. Total and utter lies and bullshit of which they should be eternally ashamed.

The media have also largely lapped it up for fear of rocking the boat. It's a media deal afterall.

[Eamonnca1]

FFS.

I give up. You win. There is no emigration from Ireland. Ireland is the only country where GAA clubs and volunteers exist. There is no reason to improve coverage of Gaelic games outside of Ireland.

[roney]

FFS.

I give up. You win. There is no emigration from Ireland. Ireland is the only country where GAA clubs and volunteers exist. There is no reason to improve coverage of Gaelic games outside of Ireland.

FFS indeed. What the hell are you on about? Tell me once and for all, how does the sky element of the deal benefit people beyond UK shores? Remember to answer the question and not revert to type.

[Mrs mills]

So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?

[orangeman]

So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?

I'm sure there's outsourcing to a degree in a lot of Irish firms to try and keep a low cost base and so that jersies etc aren't more expensive than they currently are. Firms are entitled to outsource and I'd say if you looked at every garment, there's a good chance that it was outsourced to some degree or other.

[seafoid]

Sky do not operate in the US.

For Fox's sake

[Gabriel_Hurl]

So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?

I'm sure there's outsourcing to a degree in a lot of Irish firms to try and keep a low cost base and so that jersies etc aren't more expensive than they currently are. Firms are entitled to outsource and I'd say if you looked at every garment, there's a good chance that it was outsourced to some degree or other.

Well if they are outsourcing their work - they are breaking a rule in the Official Guide

All jerseys, shorts, stockings, tracksuits and kitbags, worn and/or used for official matches, in pre-match or post-match television or video interviews and photographs, shall be of Irish manufacture. This requirement shall also apply to replica playing gear.

[orangeman]

So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?

I'm sure there's outsourcing to a degree in a lot of Irish firms to try and keep a low cost base and so that jersies etc aren't more expensive than they currently are. Firms are entitled to outsource and I'd say if you looked at every garment, there's a good chance that it was outsourced to some degree or other.

Well if they are outsourcing their work - they are breaking a rule in the Official Guide

All jerseys, shorts, stockings, tracksuits and kitbags, worn and/or used for official matches, in pre-match or post-match television or video interviews and photographs, shall be of Irish manufacture. This requirement shall also apply to replica playing gear.

They are irish made. Ok there might be some part of the process outsourced but they're still manufactured in Ireland.

[RadioGAAGAA]

But it's not that simple, is it?  Online streaming is one thing, but if the punters in Ireland were forced to watch the games through a less-than-reliable service there'd be uproar, as well as the howls of "but what about the poor lonely farmer living up the side of a mountain with no internet connection?"  Sorry but there's no substitute for good old fashioned television when it comes to live sport both in terms of reliability and audience reach.

Point out where exactly I said there would be a decoupling of TV and net rights?

Unless you actually think RTE or TV3 or BBC NI are going to go to a net only business model some day soon....?

[RadioGAAGAA]

FFS.

I give up. You win. There is no emigration from Ireland. Ireland is the only country where GAA clubs and volunteers exist. There is no reason to improve coverage of Gaelic games outside of Ireland.

FFS nothing.


Your post was a load shite, expect to be pulled on it.

How is the Sky deal going to help people in the Americas, Australia, Asia and anywhere else in the world watch the games? It isn't.


The best move would have been to say there are no online rights, anyone is free to rip the TV production and distribute it online for everyone to access from anywhere in the world without fear of copyright enforcement, then the dispora really would have been given a helping hand to see the games. Even better, there would have been nothing stopping the GAA hosting the master feed on a server and letting those that want to watch it, watch and distribute via sopcast or similar.

That would have been a move that is in keeping with the ethos of the GAA.


Not the greedy commercial shite they are trying to force down our throats.

[Johnnybegood]

Would people have been more pusses off had they sold the rights to BT Sports?

[RadioGAAGAA]

Would people have been more pusses off had they sold the rights to BT Sports?

I'm annoyed they didn't make a real step to make it easier for those abroad to catch the game. It would have been very, very easy for them to say "there are no copyright restrictions online for the football or hurling. Anyone is free to host and broadcast the games live".

This deal is not going to help the dispora (or others interested abroad), and attempting to dress it up as the entire goal of the agrement is an insult to the intelligence of the average gael.

[BennyHarp]

Would people have been more pusses off had they sold the rights to BT Sports?

I'm annoyed they didn't make a real step to make it easier for those abroad to catch the game. It would have been very, very easy for them to say "there are no copyright restrictions online for the football or hurling. Anyone is free to host and broadcast the games live".

This deal is not going to help the dispora (or others interested abroad), and attempting to dress it up as the entire goal of the agrement is an insult to the intelligence of the average gael.

I'm part of the diaspora and I'm happy with the Sky deal. Premier Sports are a joke and I don't want to watch all the matches online with my family gathered around the laptop. I must be in the minority but I prefer to watch my televised sport the good old fashioned way on the TV in my living room. I already have Sky Sports so this won't cost me any extra money - I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in this situation, so you aren't speaking on behalf of the diaspora when you make your comments here.