prods in the 26

Started by lawnseed, December 21, 2013, 06:19:19 PM

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lawnseed

I hope if graham does decide to make a contribution to this discussion that you guys will tidy up your spelling and terminology. He will be a 'guest'.. best china and all that
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

armaghniac

'prod' is like 'brit', a short version sometimes used by the group themselves.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Puckoon

Quote from: armaghniac on December 30, 2013, 06:33:06 PM
'prod' is like 'brit', a short version sometimes used by the group themselves.

Perhaps not quite a total fallicy, but a hefty dose of bullshit never the less.

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Puckoon on December 30, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 30, 2013, 06:33:06 PM
'prod' is like 'brit', a short version sometimes used by the group themselves.

Perhaps not quite a total fallicy, but a hefty dose of bullshit never the less.

Then the term does not refer to our good nationalist republican protestants down in our glorious Republic.

The only Brits in the Republics are some E.U. migrants and tourists.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

lawnseed

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 31, 2013, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 30, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 30, 2013, 06:33:06 PM
'prod' is like 'brit', a short version sometimes used by the group themselves.

Perhaps not quite a total fallicy, but a hefty dose of bullshit never the less.

Then the term does not refer to our good nationalist republican protestants down in our glorious Republic.

The only Brits in the Republics are some E.U. migrants and tourists.
Mexican prods??  :P
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

armaghniac

There's many a West Brit in the 26 counties, and they're not all in the West.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

lynchbhoy

find nortons comments strange, even stranger when bandon has a bit of a protestant community living in and around the town.
more likely he felt isolated due to perceptions on his sexual pref rather than religion id say.

know prods in school and most kept to themselves, people tried to get them to play GAA games and some did but most wouldnt.
people only copped they were prod because of the fact that they distanced themselves from integration.
of those that integrated , most folk never knew their religion - or cared.

have been to funerals in cavan for prod and catholic people and much the same faces were at both.

cavan may not have had the same religious difficulties as in the 6 counties, but it was there in the early stages of independence I believe.
more so than furthe down the country id have thought.
time heals and integration will come with future generations. along with reunification.
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deiseach

Quote from: Hardy on December 26, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
(I've put the term "protestant" in inverted commas to illustrate the fact that the "protestants" I know never refer to themselves as such and seem to dislike the term. They use "Church Of Ireland". I assume it must feel similar to them as it does to people of my tradition being referred to as "papists". It seems to be intended in a pejorative sense by people who have scant respect for them.)

It's all a bit arcane (what about religion is not arcane) but members of the Anglican communion, whether they are from England, Ireland or Ethiopia, do not see themselves as being 'Protestant' in the Reformation sense of the term. The initial break with Rome was not on theological terms such as transubstantiation but on the authority of the Pope.

T Fearon

Yes, a lot of people North and South exclude themselves, whether they know it or not. As long as communal culture is tolerated and encouraged (providing this is harmless and not provocative nor antagonistic), then no one should feel excluded anywhere.

deiseach

Quote from: armaghniac on December 31, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
There's many a West Brit in the 26 counties, and they're not all in the West.

But they are all in West Britain.

Hardy

Quote from: deiseach on January 02, 2014, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: Hardy on December 26, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
(I've put the term "protestant" in inverted commas to illustrate the fact that the "protestants" I know never refer to themselves as such and seem to dislike the term. They use "Church Of Ireland". I assume it must feel similar to them as it does to people of my tradition being referred to as "papists". It seems to be intended in a pejorative sense by people who have scant respect for them.)

It's all a bit arcane (what about religion is not arcane) but members of the Anglican communion, whether they are from England, Ireland or Ethiopia, do not see themselves as being 'Protestant' in the Reformation sense of the term. The initial break with Rome was not on theological terms such as transubstantiation but on the authority of the Pope.

Ah! That makes complete sense of the response of the man accused of being a "protestant gentleman". He said, jokingly, "I didn't think I was either". I assumed C of I people took exception to "protestant" as a sort of dismissive term. But they have a specific reason, that was lost on me until now, for rejecting the description.

deiseach

Quote from: Hardy on January 02, 2014, 12:42:46 PM
Ah! That makes complete sense of the response of the man accused of being a "protestant gentleman". He said, jokingly, "I didn't think I was either". I assumed C of I people took exception to "protestant" as a sort of dismissive term. But they have a specific reason, that was lost on me until now, for rejecting the description.

It was explained to me in these terms: "I'm an Irish Catholic, not a Roman Catholic". I think it's fair to say your acquaintance subscribes to that point of view.

T Fearon

Surely if you belong to a Christian denomination, which isn't Roman Catholic, you are automatically a protestant, whether you like it or not? No sitting on the fence on this one.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: T Fearon on January 02, 2014, 12:47:22 PM
Surely if you belong to a Christian denomination, which isn't Roman Catholic, you are automatically a protestant, whether you like it or not? No sitting on the fence on this one.

No, but be careful though as you'd probably break the fence
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnneycool

Quote from: T Fearon on January 02, 2014, 12:47:22 PM
Surely if you belong to a Christian denomination, which isn't Roman Catholic, you are automatically a protestant, whether you like it or not? No sitting on the fence on this one.

So, what of the Russian Orthodox Church? I'd always thought of it as Christian, but neither Roman Catholic or Protestant. I could be wrong,,,