Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[DaleCooper]

Theres too much improvement that needs to happen & huge lack of depth.

Every time mattie gets ball he goes back out field, v little threat of penetration.

Hopefully if they enjoy themselves a bit and try to be creative a few goals will come. Need to take big risks, hope to be in touch by half time and really come out riled up to win third quarter.

Get one of their big men booked early, make Jack consider subbing as 15 vs 14 is a massive shift.

[ClubScene13]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

[An Watcher]

Jesus lads, let's be a little optimistic.  I know its an uphill task but ye never know.  Tyrone do have the advantage of being fresher.  The longer they can stay in it, the better

[tyroneStatto]

think we are 2-3 years away from beating Kerry but would loved to be proven wrong on Saturday.

[DaleCooper]

Based on form to date it isnt gonna happen. Scoring efficiency last day. brutal, no goal against Mayo

Armagh 1 goal B McDonnell
Roscommon 3 goals Cassidy, McElholm, Mattie
Mayo 0 goals

Tyrone need at least 2 Vs Kerry.

Maybe they are flat out kicking and tuning that up. Better be.

Last year V Kerry the 2nd half wides into Canal end were atrocious

[2ndstringsub]

It will come down to how many of younger lads handle occasion. Cassidy looked excellent, Jordan was poor last day. McElholm was super last year but petered out in 2nd half.

Lets hope there are no howlers and they give it a good rattle.

It is our All Ireland final, no point pretending otherwise.

Not sure how much you can change at this stage, big McHugh maybe useful. Conn has to do his thing, more important out field

Kerry love the ball into square from 2.pt efforts, that tactic could work with big lads.

McHugh will have to be considered. Kerry had 4 recognised midfielders against Armagh. They want to dominate kickouts but if Tyrone start with a half forward line with O'Donnell and Daly we won't compete and could get annihilated.

O'Donnell was one of few bright sparks in our most recent meetings with Kerry. as for Daly I think he has really come along this year in particular and Malachy wont be moving him anywhere.

McHugh against Armagh did something I've seldom seen him do for the Fianna getting involved and actually winning ball. In all honesty I don't think there is a player there. I'd be more than happy for him to prove me wrong but I also don't want him to be thrown to the wolves in a game like this.

If he is to come good it'll be next year or two with plenty of McKenna cup and league minutes. Even saying that he would have to play like a man possessed to even be an option in last 15-20 for Conn or Brian.

[WT4E]

Goin to buy juvenile and adult tickets for Saturday, will the release better seats during the week or should u just take what's on offer now?

[5times5times]

Goin to buy juvenile and adult tickets for Saturday, will the release better seats during the week or should u just take what's on offer now?

Hold. Good tickets always released end of week. Initial rush gets rid of 90% of the crap tickets.

[square_ball]

Goin to buy juvenile and adult tickets for Saturday, will the release better seats during the week or should u just take what's on offer now?

Going by last year there should be better adult/juvenile tickets released later in the week in the Cusack. Yesterdays release had mostly Canal End or the corners of Canal/Hogan or Canal/Cusack.

[thebigfullforward]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

[ClubScene13]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

[2ndstringsub]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

They held onto the ball, poorly might I add because when they eventually did cough up possession it ended in several of the 6 pts that Kerry led by at the break.

Armagh are not the team their fans believe they are.

Kerry won because they played/play football. Armagh lost because they held onto the ball.

[ClubScene13]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

They held onto the ball, poorly might I add because when they eventually did cough up possession it ended in several of the 6 pts that Kerry led by at the break.

Armagh are not the team their fans believe they are.

Kerry won because they played/play football. Armagh lost because they held onto the ball.

I agree with you - my larger point was that Armagh were not getting blown away for 70 minutes as the final scoreline might suggest. So some reason for optimism.

 We also hold onto the ball at an infuriating rate, which won't do against Kerry. How quickly they move it in comparison is night and day

[statto]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

They held onto the ball, poorly might I add because when they eventually did cough up possession it ended in several of the 6 pts that Kerry led by at the break.

Armagh are not the team their fans believe they are.

Kerry won because they played/play football. Armagh lost because they held onto the ball.

I agree with you - my larger point was that Armagh were not getting blown away for 70 minutes as the final scoreline might suggest. So some reason for optimism.

 We also hold onto the ball at an infuriating rate, which won't do against Kerry. How quickly they move it in comparison is night and day

Yes taking Kerry on in a shootout playing against the wind would have been advisable. 

[TyroneTam]

One thing I'd like to see is a ruthlessness if a goal opportunity is presented. Think this is the only way we'll take them, scoring at least 3 goals like 2021.

What's the chances of a curve ball to negate their wall in the half forward line?

Could we see Seanie O'D replaced with someone like Ben O'Donnell or Lorcan McGarity? Someone that might match up to and challenge them in the air?