Donegal on slippery slope?

Started by ck, April 08, 2013, 09:06:22 AM

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Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 28, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
Jesus, you're not still on about this are you?
I wouldn't mind if there was one new fact to be gleaned but there isn't just more & more outlandish conspiracy theories.
I have a new one, Maybe JMcG bit him!!!

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INDIANA

Quote from: RMDrive on April 28, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 28, 2013, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The real issue is how the dubs have gone on the offensive over by calling the whole thing a mess, farce etc, no evidence, disgrace that donegal would lie, poor wee o'brien, blah blah.

Havn't seen one comment of condemnation for even the possibility of their player doing this disgusting act

That's not true in fairness. When this first emerged most Dublin folk seemed to want the player banned for life from the Dublin team if he was guilty. It's only as this developed they changed tune and that appears to be because they are 100% sure their player didn't bite McBrearty. I don't know what happened but if I was a betting man, based on the confidence of every Dub and the actions of Dublin GAA during this episode I would bet there was no bite from a Dublin player. I may be wrong but it seems to me that Donegal are saying nothing and doing nothing while Dublin have confidently rejected the charge from the get go.

Honest question Zulu .. .can you give me a link where anyone involved in the Dublin setup has "rejected the charge"? You know as well as I do that the DCB statement about it being a bruise rather than a laceration, in no way denies that there was a bite.

Hell of a difference between a scratch and a bite.

I mean I picked up scratches in every game I ever played in as I'm sure most did. Its a physical contact sport.

If I thought for one minute O Brien did it I'd happily see him banned for life from playing for Dublin. I said that from the start and I stand over it.

Its amazing how nobody is now talking about Donegal's championship preparations at present, their poor league performance or the fact their panel is effectively only 5 subs deep.

Funny that........................

RMDrive

Quote from: INDIANA on April 29, 2013, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: RMDrive on April 28, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 28, 2013, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The real issue is how the dubs have gone on the offensive over by calling the whole thing a mess, farce etc, no evidence, disgrace that donegal would lie, poor wee o'brien, blah blah.

Havn't seen one comment of condemnation for even the possibility of their player doing this disgusting act

That's not true in fairness. When this first emerged most Dublin folk seemed to want the player banned for life from the Dublin team if he was guilty. It's only as this developed they changed tune and that appears to be because they are 100% sure their player didn't bite McBrearty. I don't know what happened but if I was a betting man, based on the confidence of every Dub and the actions of Dublin GAA during this episode I would bet there was no bite from a Dublin player. I may be wrong but it seems to me that Donegal are saying nothing and doing nothing while Dublin have confidently rejected the charge from the get go.

Honest question Zulu .. .can you give me a link where anyone involved in the Dublin setup has "rejected the charge"? You know as well as I do that the DCB statement about it being a bruise rather than a laceration, in no way denies that there was a bite.

Hell of a difference between a scratch and a bite.

I mean I picked up scratches in every game I ever played in as I'm sure most did. Its a physical contact sport.

If I thought for one minute O Brien did it I'd happily see him banned for life from playing for Dublin. I said that from the start and I stand over it.

Its amazing how nobody is now talking about Donegal's championship preparations at present, their poor league performance or the fact their panel is effectively only 5 subs deep.

Funny that........................

So you can't provide any link where Dublin have denied the incident. That's fair enough.

rrhf

Surely if an allegation was made and disproved in particular where there were names bandied about in newspapers, there could be potential legalities as sad as it might seem.  Might be best to stop this tit for tat and let this settle.

heffo

Quote from: Orchardman on April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The real issue is how the dubs have gone on the offensive over by calling the whole thing a mess, farce etc, no evidence, disgrace that donegal would lie, poor wee o'brien, blah blah.

Havn't seen one comment of condemnation for even the possibility of their player doing this disgusting act

I believe every Dublin poster on this board was unequivocal that they wanted a long ban if a bite took place. That didn't happen so no ban. Re-read the thread.

heffo

Quote from: RMDrive on April 28, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 28, 2013, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The real issue is how the dubs have gone on the offensive over by calling the whole thing a mess, farce etc, no evidence, disgrace that donegal would lie, poor wee o'brien, blah blah.

Havn't seen one comment of condemnation for even the possibility of their player doing this disgusting act

That's not true in fairness. When this first emerged most Dublin folk seemed to want the player banned for life from the Dublin team if he was guilty. It's only as this developed they changed tune and that appears to be because they are 100% sure their player didn't bite McBrearty. I don't know what happened but if I was a betting man, based on the confidence of every Dub and the actions of Dublin GAA during this episode I would bet there was no bite from a Dublin player. I may be wrong but it seems to me that Donegal are saying nothing and doing nothing while Dublin have confidently rejected the charge from the get go.

Honest question Zulu .. .can you give me a link where anyone involved in the Dublin setup has "rejected the charge"?

Highest official in the county, County Chairman:

"I don't accept something did happen,"

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/kettle-says-onus-on-donegal-to-prove-mcbrearty-bite-227927.html

heffo

Quote from: RMDrive on April 29, 2013, 08:08:33 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 29, 2013, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: RMDrive on April 28, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 28, 2013, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The real issue is how the dubs have gone on the offensive over by calling the whole thing a mess, farce etc, no evidence, disgrace that donegal would lie, poor wee o'brien, blah blah.

Havn't seen one comment of condemnation for even the possibility of their player doing this disgusting act

That's not true in fairness. When this first emerged most Dublin folk seemed to want the player banned for life from the Dublin team if he was guilty. It's only as this developed they changed tune and that appears to be because they are 100% sure their player didn't bite McBrearty. I don't know what happened but if I was a betting man, based on the confidence of every Dub and the actions of Dublin GAA during this episode I would bet there was no bite from a Dublin player. I may be wrong but it seems to me that Donegal are saying nothing and doing nothing while Dublin have confidently rejected the charge from the get go.

Honest question Zulu .. .can you give me a link where anyone involved in the Dublin setup has "rejected the charge"? You know as well as I do that the DCB statement about it being a bruise rather than a laceration, in no way denies that there was a bite.

Hell of a difference between a scratch and a bite.

I mean I picked up scratches in every game I ever played in as I'm sure most did. Its a physical contact sport.

If I thought for one minute O Brien did it I'd happily see him banned for life from playing for Dublin. I said that from the start and I stand over it.

Its amazing how nobody is now talking about Donegal's championship preparations at present, their poor league performance or the fact their panel is effectively only 5 subs deep.

Funny that........................

So you can't provide any link where Dublin have denied the incident. That's fair enough.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/kettle-says-onus-on-donegal-to-prove-mcbrearty-bite-227927.html

"I don't accept something did happen," - County Chairman

heffo

Quote from: oakleafgael on April 28, 2013, 08:03:22 PM
The only fact that I am 100% sure of in this mess is that there is independent medical evidence that McBrearty was bitten by someone on the day.

Don't talk nonsense. There isn't.

nrico2006

Glad that O'Brien got off, one mans word against another.
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There is no smoke without fire. He'll do it again at some stage.

heffo

Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 29, 2013, 09:14:19 AM
There is no smoke without fire. He'll do it again at some stage.

Are we talking about Big Jim or Gallagher here?

heffo

Quote from: J70 on April 28, 2013, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 28, 2013, 12:46:21 PM
Sweet Jaysus! Thank god Mayo did not bother to high light the gauging incident a few weeks back on Thompson from Donegal. Feck, the amount of bother from complaining/reporting an incident makes you wonder is better to take what you got and move on or face the full wrath of the jury and media. Some one is lying and at this juncture i doubt if the even the Great Man above knows who. Personally, I don't really care. Incidents happen in football, some are got away with some are not. Unless you have substantial proof of an incident, then there is no case. The word from the two involved counts for nothing. People will lie to get what ever outcome they want. Time to move on (and wait in the long grass to sort this out later on)!

Wasn't going to point that out.

We know the stance of the Donegal county board on 'biting', regrettably we don't know their stance, on gouging, feigning injury or members of their Senior mgt team entering the pitch to try and influence the referee to send off players when no offence has taken place, as they've been absolutely silent on these transgressions.

Yes heffo, because Donegal are the ONLY team/county out there guilty of silence when its their own players who offend and fighting their corner when their players are on the receiving end.


Difference being the highest officials in other counties don't come out in condemnation when their own team behave like corner boys.

yellowcard

Strange that a thread about Donegal's slippage has turned into a thhread about an alleged bite.

It is nonsense to suggest that Donegal have slipped since last year since they didn't put much emphasis on the League. However all the Donegal camp have ever talked about since the USFC draw was made was the Tyrone match and the importance of having home venue. I think we will see a refreshed Donegal take the field that day and they will destroy that Tyrone defence if Tyrone continue to set up as they have done during the League. Tyrone have scored freely but have leaked a lot as well during the League.

Tyrone have improved a lot since last year and are genuine AI contenders but I think Donegal in front of their own crowd and on home turf will beat them.

J70

Quote from: INDIANA on April 29, 2013, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: RMDrive on April 28, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 28, 2013, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The real issue is how the dubs have gone on the offensive over by calling the whole thing a mess, farce etc, no evidence, disgrace that donegal would lie, poor wee o'brien, blah blah.

Havn't seen one comment of condemnation for even the possibility of their player doing this disgusting act

That's not true in fairness. When this first emerged most Dublin folk seemed to want the player banned for life from the Dublin team if he was guilty. It's only as this developed they changed tune and that appears to be because they are 100% sure their player didn't bite McBrearty. I don't know what happened but if I was a betting man, based on the confidence of every Dub and the actions of Dublin GAA during this episode I would bet there was no bite from a Dublin player. I may be wrong but it seems to me that Donegal are saying nothing and doing nothing while Dublin have confidently rejected the charge from the get go.

Honest question Zulu .. .can you give me a link where anyone involved in the Dublin setup has "rejected the charge"? You know as well as I do that the DCB statement about it being a bruise rather than a laceration, in no way denies that there was a bite.

Hell of a difference between a scratch and a bite.

I mean I picked up scratches in every game I ever played in as I'm sure most did. Its a physical contact sport.

If I thought for one minute O Brien did it I'd happily see him banned for life from playing for Dublin. I said that from the start and I stand over it.

Its amazing how nobody is now talking about Donegal's championship preparations at present, their poor league performance or the fact their panel is effectively only 5 subs deep.

Funny that........................

So now we get to the heart of the dastardly scheme!!  Falsely damage a man's reputation for a short term PR gain. Get a grip of yourself.

They had identical form last year. And their panel was even thinner then. And it would suit Donegal down to the ground to be written off before we even start!