argentina v britain II venue the falklands

[lawnseed]

well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one so the argies would have a fair idea what to expect were they to invade. secondly an argentine invasion would attract more support from their neighbours brazil this time around not military but moral support would help. also the US  enjoy a healthier relationship with the current argie administration making it a little less comfy for the brits they couldnt be sure of total support. i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time

on a personal note a war like this would give all those fleg waving pricks a chance to really fight for their fleg lets see how many of them are willing to get involved

[seafoid]

Cameron says he will do everything for the 5000 sheep shaggers while unemployed people back in dear old Blighty are supposed to live on 53 quid a week and libraries are being shut down. 

The UK can't afford las Malvinas. 

[thejuice]

I don't think the Argentineans would be stupid enough to try invade again. Their army isn't up to it and countries like Brazil who are growing rapidly won't want a conflict in their neighbourhood.

I don't think the Tories ever pretended to care about those at the poorer end of society but they do love a bit of global posturing and militarism.

[Rossfan]

They have to keep the last remnant of their once big Empire I suppose

[seafoid]

Argentina is on a very shaky scraw at the moment with an economic crisis and the risk of stagflation.  But they have a better claim to the islands than the Brits. And I wonder how much the Falklands cost the UK every year.

[heganboy]

The UK can't afford las Malvinas.

the estimated 60 billion barrels of oil in the territory may well make it a lot more affordable..

[From the Bunker]

Oh the empire is finished no foreign lands to seize. So the greedy eyes of England are looking towards the seas................

[Wildweasel74]

We got a 150 volunteers outa Belfast ready to go, on the way to Dublin on Saturday, give them a Garda escort to the port, and fire them out to the Falklands to defend that flag lol

[michaelg]

Is it not a bit rich that the Argentinians bang on about British colonialism when Argentina is a former Spanish colony itself?  Also, I might be wrong, but I don't think there has ever been any Argentinian settlement on the Falklands.

[muppet]

Is it not a bit rich that the Argentinians bang on about British colonialism when Argentina is a former Spanish colony itself?  Also, I might be wrong, but I don't think there has ever been any Argentinian settlement on the Falklands.

SF has a very good opportunity here to 'reach out to Unionists'.

They should announce that in light of the recent challenge to the Britishness of the Falklands, that Belfast City Council will fund the trip for any protestors willing to march on the centre of Beunos Aires.

[seafoid]

The UK can't afford las Malvinas.

the estimated 60 billion barrels of oil in the territory may well make it a lot more affordable..

It looks like a bit of a long shot

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/27/fogl-shares-halve

[lawnseed]

P&O ferries are forced to pull out of 3 Argentinian ports as more union flegs are burnt. its worth noting that during the last war p&o had more ships carrying troops to the Falklands that the British army themselves. mostly junk they probably wish didn't come back

[Hardy]

P&O ferries are forced to pull out of 3 Argentinian ports as more union flegs are burnt. its worth noting that during the last war p&o had more ships carrying troops to the Falklands that the British army themselves. mostly junk they probably wish didn't come back

Most of them came back, though, and they're on the dole now.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one  i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time

This shows how little you know. Prior to the Falklands the UK had only a handful of troops and local militia. The UK had downgraded its Navy. Argentina had a large army, with advanced fighters for that time and top of the range French anti-ship missles. Today the UK has a significant garrison, Eurofighter Typhoons, transport planes and attack choppers. The UK have significantly upgraded their Navy, Argentina has downgraded theirs. Argentina's airforce has gone from one of the best in South America to mid-table at best. Due to both Argentinian disinterested in upgrading their airforce and UK/USA making it difficult for them to buy advanced US/European/Russian/Chinese/Indian etc. advanced aircraft.

If anything is closer than we would imagine, it was Falklands War. Had the Argentinans managed to united both their naval groups, they would have gave the Brits one hell of a kicking, but they did not manage this and the war ended as it did.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

I think the gratitude headline portrays the Brits true feelings towards the Falklands, they are not liberators but simple Imperialists.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202679/Only-29-Falkland-Islanders-say-feel-British.html

That's gratitude! Only 29% of Falkland Islanders say they feel BritishOver half of islanders call themselves 'Falklands Islanders' rather than 'British'
Less than one in ten identify themselves as Argentine



Thirty years after British forces liberated the Falkland Islands from Argentinian invaders, the two countries are still at odds over who has the more legitimate claim to the land.
But it seems the inhabitants of the island would prefer to be left to their own devices, with just one in three saying they actually feel British.

A census in the self-governing British Overseas Territory found that an overwhelming 59 percent say their national identity is 'Falkland Islander'.

Just 29 per cent admit feeling 'British



The census results have implications for Argentina, which refuses to deal directly with the Falkland Islands' local government and accuses Britain of running what Argentines call the Islas Malvinas as an illegal colony.
The survey also puts the average annual income at $32,213 (£20,015), much higher than Argentina's $9,620 (£5,977) as of last year, or that of the Falklands' other Latin American neighbors.
The income figure underlines how much things have changed since before the 1982 war.



Back then, wool prices had bottomed out internationally and invading Argentine soldiers were told they would be welcomed by impoverished and oppressed tenant farmers.
Instead, they encountered a stubbornly defiant population that helped British troops retake the islands.
Sheltered by continued military support, Falklanders have seen their livelihoods greatly improve since the war, with revenue flowing in from fisheries, tourism and offshore oil development.
But the census also reveals a problem: The islands' population hasn't grown since the last survey was done in 2006. There are only 2,563 residents after civilian contractors and British military personnel and their dependents are excluded.
The population is aging rapidly, too, with the ranks of people older than 65 increasing by 14 percent in the last six years.
'If the Falklands is to progress we need to increase our population,' said Les Harris, a 73-year-old retired power station manager who was born in Chile.


The census shows unemployment at just 1 percent, with one-fifth of all workers having multiple jobs. The largest employer by far is the government, at 28 percent, followed by agriculture (11 percent) and hospitality and tourism (11 percent).
Offshore oil and gas development could bring sudden wealth to the islands if several drilling efforts strike it rich. But the effort currently employs just 26 islanders, and there simply aren't enough people around to work the jobs created by a growing economy.
'There is virtually no spare capacity within the labor market to accommodate any additional employment opportunities that may arise in the future. Indeed, almost 20 percent of persons in employment have more than one job,' the government said Tuesday.
The census shows immigration slowing, due to one of the world's most restrictive policies: Newcomers aren't allowed to apply for islander status, giving them voting rights among other things, until they have completed seven years of residency. That can be done only by repeatedly renewing temporary labor contracts. Even then, only 40 people can apply each year, and not all are accepted.
The census says 70 per cent of the population, 1,973 people, are Falkland Islanders or Falkland Island Status Holders.