Val Andrews steps down

Started by ck, April 12, 2012, 11:37:32 PM

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mylestheslasher

Quote from: spuds on April 13, 2012, 11:11:07 AM
Is it time for counties to amalgamate like the struggling clubs do ? Cavan have the underage teams coming through and Meath have the experienced bucks like Anthony Moyles, Geraghty, Sean Boylan, Red Collier etc. Maybe throw in Monaghan as well. Would Cavan agree to Banty as manager though ?

Cavan, Monaghan and Meath amalgamate - are you off your rocker!

Dont Matter

Why anyone would appoint Val Andrews to manage an inter-county team in the first place is the real scandal.
'Dublin is not a national problem, it's a national opportunity.'
Peter Quinn

Louth Exile

Quote from: Dont Matter on April 13, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
Why anyone would appoint Val Andrews to manage an inter-county team in the first place is the real scandal.

Absolutely! Leaving aside whatever flaws the Cavan senior players have, I would not let Val Andrews be a selector with the U12s! Without any shadow of a doubt the worst, most poorly organised manager I have ever seen let near a county side.

The fact that this was Andrew's second term with the county and that in the interim period they had Keoghan does not bode well for the powers that be making a good appointment to replace him and they'd never appoint a Monaghan man!!

mylestheslasher

They once appointed a Meath man so you never know what they'd do. I reckon A Forde is the man who will get the job till the end of the season.

boojangles

Yes I believe Forde will be taking training now with Terry in to steady the ship. I just hope it doesn't unsettle the U-21s preparation. U-21s are far more important at the moment and by judging the crowd in Brewster compared to any of the Senior games this year the bulk of Cavan fans feel the same.
Andrews was a quick fix because nobody else would touch us. He was found out early last year. This year is probably a write off at this stage.

heffo

Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2012, 04:03:23 PM
I reckon A Forde is the man who will get the job till the end of the season.

Is he not still in Dublin with Ulster Bank??

boojangles

Quote from: heffo on April 13, 2012, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2012, 04:03:23 PM
I reckon A Forde is the man who will get the job till the end of the season.

Is he not still in Dublin with Ulster Bank??

No he has set up a new business in Cavan town.

Denn Forever

And writing for the Anglo Celt.  Maybe he can get SJ to talk to Paul Fitzpatrick!
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

tommysmith

Quote from: INDIANA on April 13, 2012, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 13, 2012, 12:22:23 AM
Cavan supporters I talked to were very upset by the way Cavan tailed off in most of their games (they lead us 1-4 to 0-1 after five minutes, losing 1-17 to 1-12, for example). It seemed to me like nothing Andrews did was able to effect the course of the game once it turned against him. Everyone knows there was plenty of backstage politics.

How many managers have Cavan had in the last 8 years. All of them were wrong? Hardly.
The last few would not be regarded as good manangers anyway.

It is definatly not all down to any off the mangers but Cavan are better than what we have seen this year.

theticklemister

I managed a university team that beat a Val Andrews Dublin NCI (if my memory serves me right) and our main player was causing havoc in first half; as soon as the said player touched the ball in second half he was emptied and had to be brought off. Obviously on the word of Andrews.We eventually held on to win the game.

At the usual after dinner meal Val said to me 'Sorry; it had to be done (in relation to our injured forward)'

I felt sick in the stomach. I have always been brought up to play the game fair and to stop the other team playing fairly. The said player was lucky to play the following week in championship. This put me off Andrews from then on. 

Jinxy

Oh boo hoo!
It's a mans game.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Jinxy

I must say Val was very dignified throughout all the Seanie nonsense.
Best of luck to him, seems like a decent chap.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

theticklemister

No, as it was just the second half starting I believe the ref had no balls too. Mind ye we were a man down ourselves from first half. The forward in question was Pat Cadden from Fermanagh. Greatest forward I had the privilge to coach or indeed be associated with. Think he is in fermanagh set up still.

I know coaches go out and say 'do this' and 'that' but the fact that he came and admitted it made it even worse. I would never and have never told any player to go out and delibertly hurt or injure any player. Ye may say give him a pull here or there but never cause bodily harm on him.

shawshank

Quote from: theticklemister on April 13, 2012, 07:53:01 PM
I managed a university team that beat a Val Andrews Dublin NCI (if my memory serves me right) and our main player was causing havoc in first half; as soon as the said player touched the ball in second half he was emptied and had to be brought off. Obviously on the word of Andrews.We eventually held on to win the game.

At the usual after dinner meal Val said to me 'Sorry; it had to be done (in relation to our injured forward)'

I felt sick in the stomach. I have always been brought up to play the game fair and to stop the other team playing fairly. The said player was lucky to play the following week in championship. This put me off Andrews from then on.

I'll take you back to the All ireland final a few yrs ago between Cork and Kerry, didn't Tagh take Nick Murphy out of it in the 1st minute of the game, all planned according to his auto biography. Surprosed your so shocked never mind niave, stay away from management with that greeness behind your ears. ;D

theticklemister

Quote from: shawshank on April 13, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on April 13, 2012, 07:53:01 PM
I managed a university team that beat a Val Andrews Dublin NCI (if my memory serves me right) and our main player was causing havoc in first half; as soon as the said player touched the ball in second half he was emptied and had to be brought off. Obviously on the word of Andrews.We eventually held on to win the game.

At the usual after dinner meal Val said to me 'Sorry; it had to be done (in relation to our injured forward)'

I felt sick in the stomach. I have always been brought up to play the game fair and to stop the other team playing fairly. The said player was lucky to play the following week in championship. This put me off Andrews from then on.

I'll take you back to the All ireland final a few yrs ago between Cork and Kerry, didn't Tagh take Nick Murphy out of it in the 1st minute of the game, all planned according to his auto biography. Surprosed your so shocked never mind niave, stay away from management with that greeness behind your ears. ;D


I wouldnt want to see the wains look up to players/coaches who do such things delibertly. They should be role models.If yer not good enough to beat them on the field of play why do you have to resort to violence.