Val Andrews steps down

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Player power gone mad? Or has Andrews just been found out?

Heard Andrews this evening on Sport at 7 on RTE1. It was a pathetic defence on his part, I've no idea why he did the interview when all he could come out with was that the players should take a look at themselves whilst trying to play it all down as no big deal. He also indicated that he had no idea what the problems were (Come off it Val) but did mention "a few training issues".

Easy first round win for Donegal now?

[Captain Obvious]

Not a good time to get rid of manager could they not wait until the championship is over?

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Easy first round win for Donegal now?

Now?

...as a result of this will Donegal have an easy 1st round win? (It's my broken Sligo lingo!)

[Syferus]

Cavan can be a fairly nippy team. They looked good for long stretches in the league against us (and we ended up scoring 1-17, so it's not like we were playing with hangovers). Add in two years of quality u21s and you've got a dangerous little concoction. If a new manager got the players in gear, and with Michael Murphy and Kevin Cassidy out, Donegal could have alot harder time of it than they thought when the draw was made in October. They'll probably still win, but it'd be madness to dismiss Cavan.

[Syferus]

Right.......

Donegal would eat and shite them imo.

Donegal don't look like they could eat Ready Brek for breakfast at the moment, they had a very, very average league. They've clearly regressed from last year, losing their best defender bar Karl Lacey and the head of their one-man attack is a pretty swinging blow. Cavan will scalp one of the big guns one of these years, it probably not going to be this year with the upheaval, but it is going to happen.

I'm thinking Antrim-Donegal last year, minus Murphy, for the Cavan game. It won't be pretty, but that won't be because Donegal are scoring 20 points. They're just not set up to trash teams.

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I would agree that Donegal have regressed but they still are a Div 1 team V a Div 3 team. A Div 3 team who lost to Antrim last Sunday V a Div 1 team who beat Armagh. That in itself would suggest an easy win for Donegal. Now that Cavan have dumped their manager and are now weeks away from c/ship, have no manager, no U.21 players... it can only mean a Cavan hammering surely.

Any Cavan people on here? Any idea why the turn on Andrews?

[Syferus]

Cavan supporters I talked to were very upset by the way Cavan tailed off in most of their games (they lead us 1-4 to 0-1 after five minutes, losing 1-17 to 1-12, for example). It seemed to me like nothing Andrews did was able to effect the course of the game once it turned against him. Everyone knows there was plenty of backstage politics.

[ross4life]

Seems like the pressure to bring through the young players was intense. The Cavan team that faced us a few weeks ago was unrecognisable to one the that played us two years ago. Apart from the one lad on his way to Kildare what happened to the more experienced Cavan players?

Time to bring wee Martin back & wouldn't it be some story if he returned to defeat his own county.

[INDIANA]

Cavan supporters I talked to were very upset by the way Cavan tailed off in most of their games (they lead us 1-4 to 0-1 after five minutes, losing 1-17 to 1-12, for example). It seemed to me like nothing Andrews did was able to effect the course of the game once it turned against him. Everyone knows there was plenty of backstage politics.

How many managers have Cavan had in the last 8 years. All of them were wrong? Hardly.

[Syferus]

Cavan supporters I talked to were very upset by the way Cavan tailed off in most of their games (they lead us 1-4 to 0-1 after five minutes, losing 1-17 to 1-12, for example). It seemed to me like nothing Andrews did was able to effect the course of the game once it turned against him. Everyone knows there was plenty of backstage politics.

Andrews wasn't able to.....
Carr wasn't able to.....
Keoghan wasn't able to.....

This has been going on for years. There is one common denominator. Cavan senior football players (with and without Seanie). Not good enough?

Oh, absolutely. They have plenty of hope for the future, though, and do have enough good squad players to bolster the underage lads in the years to come. The next permanent manager really needed to be Terry Hyland but he's saying he has no interest in it. Maybe that'll change now.

[Syferus]

Cavan supporters I talked to were very upset by the way Cavan tailed off in most of their games (they lead us 1-4 to 0-1 after five minutes, losing 1-17 to 1-12, for example). It seemed to me like nothing Andrews did was able to effect the course of the game once it turned against him. Everyone knows there was plenty of backstage politics.

Andrews wasn't able to.....
Carr wasn't able to.....
Keoghan wasn't able to.....

This has been going on for years. There is one common denominator. Cavan senior football players (with and without Seanie). Not good enough?

Oh, absolutely. They have plenty of hope for the future, though, and do have enough good squad players to bolster the underage lads in the years to come. The next permanent manager really needed to be Terry Hyland but he's saying he has no interest in it. Maybe that'll change now.

Or perhaps there is a very good reason why Hyland wants nothing to do with the senior panel.

You must remember that it appears that it's the same players who haven't cut the mustard under several managers who contrived get Andrews binned.

Well he's already a selector for the senior panel so he has no issues being involved. He'd be the obvious choice for continuity and for developing the u21s. He did say he wasn't interested before Val Andrew, err, 'stepped down', he could hardly say he wanted to manager of a team he was a selector on.

[ONeill]

It's Bogue's book.

Cassidy, McDonnell, Andrews. What next - Ricey's teeth tooth to fall out? Paddy Cunningham disappears?

[rrhf]

I hear he's writing a book on the titanic

[Denn Forever]

If you couldn't laugh, you'd cry.

There is always next year.

[spuds]

Is it time for counties to amalgamate like the struggling clubs do ? Cavan have the underage teams coming through and Meath have the experienced bucks like Anthony Moyles, Geraghty, Sean Boylan, Red Collier etc. Maybe throw in Monaghan as well. Would Cavan agree to Banty as manager though ?