Towns in Ireland named after British Imperialists

Started by Feckitt, April 02, 2012, 09:14:40 PM

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brokencrossbar1

Quote from: muppet on April 07, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
This may be common knowledge in the 6 counties but I always wondered where the name Crossmaglen Rangers came from.

Why Rangers? I presume it pre-dates who we associate the name with nowadays.

Any idea BC!?

(N.B. this is neither a political question nor a piss-take.)

The team in Cross had been known mostly as the Red Hands up till 1908 when on the suggestion of a commericial traveller from Dundalk who was the captain of Louth the team should adopt the colours and name of the Louth county champions Dundalk Rangers.  This was agreed and the bllack and amber jersey in Cross ame into usage.  At the time there were many clubs called Rangers, Rovers, Celtic and other such names.  At one stage there was actually a Cross rangers and a cross celtic!!

muppet

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 07, 2012, 12:07:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 07, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
This may be common knowledge in the 6 counties but I always wondered where the name Crossmaglen Rangers came from.

Why Rangers? I presume it pre-dates who we associate the name with nowadays.

Any idea BC!?

(N.B. this is neither a political question nor a piss-take.)

The team in Cross had been known mostly as the Red Hands up till 1908 when on the suggestion of a commericial traveller from Dundalk who was the captain of Louth the team should adopt the colours and name of the Louth county champions Dundalk Rangers.  This was agreed and the bllack and amber jersey in Cross ame into usage.  At the time there were many clubs called Rangers, Rovers, Celtic and other such names.  At one stage there was actually a Cross rangers and a cross celtic!!

Forgot about Nemo (how could I forget them!). There is still a Mattock Rangers in Louth also.
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mylestheslasher

Quote from: theticklemister on April 07, 2012, 07:56:53 AM
Anybody have info on the Anglo-Celt cup?? (Ulster Championship)

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The Anglo celt is the local newspaper in Cavan. Why its was called the anglo celt I don't know but I'd guess to try and remain impartial by trying to appeal to both sides of the community.

Franko

Quote from: Myles Na G. on April 06, 2012, 07:39:03 AM
What about towns / railway stations / sports stadia in Ireland named after Irish fools and fanatics?

Ah that old chestnut!   ;D

dillinger

Still a lot of Irish organisations with the word Royal in their name. Is there a bit of snobbery going on?

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2012, 12:13:57 PM
I always thought it was just one of those names like Rovers and Wanderers.

You have Laune Rangers as well.
There's also Mount Leinster Rangers from Carlow.
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BennyCake

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 07, 2012, 12:07:46 PM
The team in Cross had been known mostly as the Red Hands up till 1908 when on the suggestion of a commericial traveller from Dundalk who was the captain of Louth the team should adopt the colours and name of the Louth county champions Dundalk Rangers.  This was agreed and the bllack and amber jersey in Cross ame into usage.  At the time there were many clubs called Rangers, Rovers, Celtic and other such names.  At one stage there was actually a Cross rangers and a cross celtic!!

And I've heard of a Cross Geraldines as well.

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Quote from: BennyCake on April 08, 2012, 09:15:13 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 07, 2012, 12:07:46 PM
The team in Cross had been known mostly as the Red Hands up till 1908 when on the suggestion of a commericial traveller from Dundalk who was the captain of Louth the team should adopt the colours and name of the Louth county champions Dundalk Rangers.  This was agreed and the bllack and amber jersey in Cross ame into usage.  At the time there were many clubs called Rangers, Rovers, Celtic and other such names.  At one stage there was actually a Cross rangers and a cross celtic!!

And I've heard of a Cross Geraldines as well.

Met a couple of cross Geraldines in my day, one of them was fecking livid.

Carbery Rangers, Skellig Rangers, Feale Rangers, there's a club just called Rangers in New York, and how could we leave out Budapest Rangers

http://www.budapestrangers.com/

bennydorano

There was a Geraldines team from Camlough up until 80's/90's. Cruppen B's

lawnseed

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Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 07, 2012, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on April 07, 2012, 12:04:41 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 06, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on April 06, 2012, 03:18:25 AM
Charlestown used to be called Newtown-Dillon, but was renamed after Charles Strickland, an agent of Lord Dillon.

The area was known as Dillontown before the town was established.

http://www.irelandgenweb.com/irlmay/townlands/Charlestown.htm

That Lord Dillon must have owned some size of an estate, was not his home in Ireland what was once Loughglynn Convent. Local folklore has it that the morter for the estate walls was mixed with the blood of the famine dead

From the same link:
QuoteThe Dillons were a prominent family who came to Ireland around the time of the Norman invasion. They held government office and owned land in much of Connaught including 83,000 acres in Mayo. It may be of interest that in addition to serving prominently in Ireland the Dillon family served in France's well-known Irish Brigade. In fact, the name of the famous "Regiment de Dillon" is recorded on the Arc de Triomphe in Paris.
Don't know about Dillon, but Strickland seems to have been daycent:
QuoteThe tenants on Lord Dillon's estate were fortunate because Strickland came to their assistance and personally labored to get food to those in need. He worked with the local Relief Committees to have resolutions passed calling on the government to set up Relief Depots in East Mayo. He purchased cargoes of Indian meal and corn and set up depots on the estate to keep the famine at bay. His efforts saved a large portion of the residents of Charlestown from starvation.

Is that the same Dillon who had Ballaghaderreen moved from Mayo to Roscommon?
i'm thinking that these are the same dillons who owned castle dillon on the armagh portadown road an estate that once boasted 3700 acres thats most of mid armagh. they sold it and between here and there it was awarded to a french family the molyneaux not actually their name but the name of the town in france from which they came who fought for the brits in one of the many anglo french wars but they retained the name castle dillon bits were sold off until it was split between the tayto crisp family and another large farmer the castle itself is now an old folks home. its the best land in the county of armagh with the castle over looking a beautiful lake. when it was sold off in the 80s the asking price was 1 million stg for the lot.. it was for nothing
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armaghniac

#115
Carbery Rangers were founded in 1887, so they probably started it!

Rangers, like Rovers, are just hardy manly types that you'd want on your team.

I'd say the people who named Cross' didn't even know what teams in Glasgow were called and this whole Glasgow thing does not echo strongly in South Armagh.
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Feckitt

"I'd say the people who named Cross' didn't even know what teams in Glasgow were called and this whole Glasgow thing does not echo strongly in South Armagh. "

Correct!

AZOffaly

Laune Rangers in Kerry too. Actually Rangers might be the most successful suffix in the gaa when you consider what nemo, cross and killorglin have won!

Rossfan

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 08:51:25 AM
There's also Mount Leinster Rangers from Carlow.
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Not to mention the Fighting Cocks
Triple Connacht Champions

ziggysego

The BBC are having a field day with Queens Town recently.
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