Antrim Football Thread

[Flanker]

Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.

Barnish that's a pretty cheap shot.

In case you hadn't noticed he was one of the better performers in the Tailtean Cup defeat to Leitrim.

In case you hadn't noticed he was being used as a target for kickouts in the first half against the wind competing quite sucessfully in an area with an all star midfielder and some other serious operators. (Part of a reasonably successful kick out strategy).
He was then being used as a target inside, so late in the second half against a hard running, well conditioned opposition in an ulster senior club semi final you might understand that the legs might not do what the head might want them to do.

You might be better focusing your efforts on some of those underage C teams developing talent, discipline and conditioning as I don't think there are any plans for a D league.

[bannside]

I'm not putting pressure on them Spike, in fact I dont have any real interaction with them at all, and I'd be surprised if any of them were on Gaaboard!

I really like what I see, best to leave it at that...in any event, time will indeed tell if my opinion turns out to be correct or turn to horse manure.

[imtommygunn]

BS I always admire your optimism!

Also love this wee video from the sponsorship stuff:...https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Reid/status/1598343006943330304

[Milltown Row2]

BS I always admire your optimism!

Also love this wee video from the sponsorship stuff:...https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Reid/status/1598343006943330304

All those hurlers in Whitehead!! one of the images at the start

All joking aside, fantastic stuff from everyone involved with getting sponsorship during these times, otherwise the preparation required to get them to a competitive level is not available

[Cnoc Bán]

Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.

Barnish that's a pretty cheap shot.

In case you hadn't noticed he was one of the better performers in the Tailtean Cup defeat to Leitrim.

In case you hadn't noticed he was being used as a target for kickouts in the first half against the wind competing quite sucessfully in an area with an all star midfielder and some other serious operators. (Part of a reasonably successful kick out strategy).
He was then being used as a target inside, so late in the second half against a hard running, well conditioned opposition in an ulster senior club semi final you might understand that the legs might not do what the head might want them to do.

You might be better focusing your efforts on some of those underage C teams developing talent, discipline and conditioning as I don't think there are any plans for a D league.

Like a broken record you.

Funny you never seem to put your own contributions to any club on here.

Easier to mouth off about some perceived mindset in my club, without stating anything about your club or what you contribute to them.

Hardly a cheap shot but then again, it seems you only post to have a cheap shot in the first place.

Maybe you username is a misspelling and you should replace the first two letters with one.

I have seen Pat play more than just that match and as I said earlier, an incredible talent, there are many in this country could only wish to have feet like his and his physical attributes.

I, and others I have spoken to, just feel that he comes across as lazy at times.

Maybe when you see the work rate of the likes of Tomas beside him, who has a good few years on him, then it reflects badly on him.

My opinion, and that of others as I say, and we are perfectly entitled to have that opinion until we see evidence to the contrary.

But then sure didn't the great Maurice Fitz get the same reputation and he wasn't a bad footballer!

[Spike]

One thing about Sunday is that the fitness levels of these fellas are incredible. If Pat is in MeEntee's plans then I have no doubts a fitness s&c programme has been put to him by now.  He is still a youngster with a large frame to carry, essential he keeps on it and building year on year.

[Cnoc Bán]

One thing about Sunday is that the fitness levels of these fellas are incredible. If Pat is in MeEntee's plans then I have no doubts a fitness s&c programme has been put to him by now.  He is still a youngster with a large frame to carry, essential he keeps on it and building year on year.

It would be criminal if he wasn't considered part of the plans so here's hoping.

[country bumpkin]

Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Jeez Gold you so seemwell aware of the requirements of life on the fast lane on the Ulster Way...

Am sure RD and the lads would be grateful of such musings when they set about ascending the same steep trail 2023.....ty

Yep, proud of our lads and team management in their progress last year....
How man giving advice have experienced an Ulster club semi final......yabba etc hasn't...
Negativity from begrudgers like the Breathe poster

[country bumpkin]

All that glitters is not GOLD often I have heard that told.

[Belfast GAA man]

U country boys love a Barny !
When first national league match ?

[bannside]

Not sure how many will make eventual panel G&T when Andy cuts the training panel down.

[Flanker]

Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.

Barnish that's a pretty cheap shot.

In case you hadn't noticed he was one of the better performers in the Tailtean Cup defeat to Leitrim.

In case you hadn't noticed he was being used as a target for kickouts in the first half against the wind competing quite sucessfully in an area with an all star midfielder and some other serious operators. (Part of a reasonably successful kick out strategy).
He was then being used as a target inside, so late in the second half against a hard running, well conditioned opposition in an ulster senior club semi final you might understand that the legs might not do what the head might want them to do.

You might be better focusing your efforts on some of those underage C teams developing talent, discipline and conditioning as I don't think there are any plans for a D league.

Like a broken record you.

Funny you never seem to put your own contributions to any club on here.

Easier to mouth off about some perceived mindset in my club, without stating anything about your club or what you contribute to them.

Hardly a cheap shot but then again, it seems you only post to have a cheap shot in the first place.

Maybe you username is a misspelling and you should replace the first two letters with one.

I have seen Pat play more than just that match and as I said earlier, an incredible talent, there are many in this country could only wish to have feet like his and his physical attributes.

I, and others I have spoken to, just feel that he comes across as lazy at times.

Maybe when you see the work rate of the likes of Tomas beside him, who has a good few years on him, then it reflects badly on him.

My opinion, and that of others as I say, and we are perfectly entitled to have that opinion until we see evidence to the contrary.

But then sure didn't the great Maurice Fitz get the same reputation and he wasn't a bad footballer!

Not mouthing of Barnish just trying to highlight and draw attention to the level the lad is playing at and where he is being judged

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy

Have seen him play loads of times. Most of the time at a very high grade of football making a significant contribution. Couple of Minor championships, Couple of Senior championships, A MACrory Cup winner, Antrim Senior County panelist and I'm sure loads of other things as well.

Just thought it was very harsh comment from someone involved in coaching on a lad with a big frame who will physically mature a little later than a 5 10 / 5 11 type guy..

He is not doing 2 bad for a guy that has a bit of developing ahead of him.

Just an opinion. Will agree to disagree on it

[Milltown Row2]

Flanker have you ever criticised a player before? Been plenty on here and is this the first time you've jumped in to defend criticism?

[country bumpkin]

Agree totally Flanker ....
Pat works very hard indeed and I M O he is still in the development process.

Never will be blessed with a ton of pace, and if he has a fault it is he find It difficult to forgive himself for error or mistake.

His best years are incoming and glad to say his brother Tom is another youngster to look out for.

[Flanker]

Flanker have you ever criticised a player before? Been plenty on here and is this the first time you've jumped in to defend criticism?

I'm sure I have been critical of players at times. Your probably going to dig something out of a post somewhere where I have criticised a player. As I mentioned it is just an opinion based on what I have seen. I thought it was overly harsh. He has always played at a very high grade/level of football which needs to be considered when making judgement.but we can all have opinions and agree to disagree.