All-Ireland Senior Football final - Kerry v Dublin 18/09/2011

Started by Dinny Breen, August 22, 2011, 06:06:06 PM

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Quote from: seafoid on September 20, 2011, 01:57:32 PM
Kerry lose 4 out of 8 all Irelands
That's incredible.

Mayo and Kerry both lose 4 All-Irelands in 15 years  ;)
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Kerry Mike

36 wins out of 126 years is very poor too come to think of it but we will struggle on..
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Hound

Thanks for all the congratulations.

I have to pause the celebrations now for a while, but will be hitting it hard on Thursday for another long weekend. 3 All Irelands in my 30 years going to games, but that was the first win that I got a ticket for. And finally I have a day that surpassed Pairc Ui Chaoimh in 1983, when I well too young to even drink!

Really proud of the lads.

Hopefully there's no risk of Gilroy leaving, like O'Neill did the last time we won.

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Actually I should also congradulate the Dubs. I had them rated all wrong & Cluxton is alot more important player than I gave him credit for.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

oakleafgael

Congrats to all the Dubs on here and more importantly to the team, they have paid there dues over the last 6/7 years and it was nice to see the likes of the Brogans, Cahill and Henry getting a Celtic Cross. They got the rub of the green from the ref on the day but they made the most of it. Kerry will be kicking themselves as they definitely through it away when 4 points up. Dec O'Sullivan was poor enough all day and will regret the pass that was intercepted for the goal, he didnt look comfortable to me from the start and probably should have been replaced after the knock from Brennan who was lucky enough to avoid a red card.

Sheehan has that lovely lazy kicking style you could watch all day and his point from play was only bettered by Donaghy's, who is growing more annoying with the passing of every year.

bcarrier

Quote from: Billys Boots on September 19, 2011, 09:34:13 AM
Well done Dubs, a fine win in difficult circumstances - one to be proud of and enjoy.

A fascinating match for the neutral - wonderful defensive play by both sides, nice patient build-up play by both sides, great intensity for spells by both sides and some lovely score-taking.  Both sides had periods of almost complete dominance.  And then the match hinged on a small number of mistakes (in my opinion): (1) poor possession play by Kerry in the midfield area (allied with the defense being out of position, when the ball was lost), (2) poor refereeing that allowed Brennan to stay on the field twice for two individual red-card offenses, and (3) Kerry taking off Brosnan at the time when they needed him most. 

Nolan and Donaghy's points late in the game were just wonderful, wonderful scores.  For what someone earlier said was a poor midfield display, MOTM for me was between Sheehan and MacAuley, with a strong mention for Darren O'Sullivan.

Agree with all of that. Well done to the Dublin lads on here ...couldnt begrudge ye an All Ireland and have always found Dublin supporters to be a good humoured bunch.

I cant make Brennan out . In general I would be a fan of  hard but fair CHB's and have liked Brennan as a footballer despite some stupid lashing out in his previous . I thought at that time Brennan taking out Declan was accidental but am told replays indicated otherwise. The incident with Star was just plain stupid and would have been unforgiveable for his teammates if ref had dealt with it correctly. While no-one can ever be entirely sure what goes through players heads it appears that for the third successive all Ireland players ( Kennelly 09, N O'Sullivan 10, Brennan 11) who set out to take an opponent out of the game have got way with it and gone onto win medals.

Was Brosnan injured when taken off or was Jack O Connor clearing the bench to give the boys medals on field of play ?

Kickham csc

Regarding the Brennan - O'Sullivan incident. Can we stop complaining / analysing it. If you want to talk about, how about bringing in the fact that O'sullivan shouldn't have been on the field after he broke the half backs nose with his elbow in the first half.

BTW, don't believe that any of them should have been sent off, can we not have the same level of physicallity in football that we have in hurling.

Regarding Brennan's hand in the face. We should be analysing Donaghy's reaction. Worse than the Donegal reaction to Connelly in the semi.

Last point. Never really rated Darren O'Sullivan before. Yesterday I thought he was fantastic, and I would have given him the MOTM. In the first half when Kerry were under the cosh, he was brillant, and in the second half, when Kerry were turning the screw, I though that he was in the middle of a lot of Kerry's moves. Brillant performance from him, best play on view in my opinion.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: Kickham csc on September 20, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Regarding the Brennan - O'Sullivan incident. Can we stop complaining / analysing it. If you want to talk about, how about bringing in the fact that O'sullivan shouldn't have been on the field after he broke the half backs nose with his elbow in the first half.

BTW, don't believe that any of them should have been sent off, can we not have the same level of physicallity in football that we have in hurling.

Regarding Brennan's hand in the face. We should be analysing Donaghy's reaction. Worse than the Donegal reaction to Connelly in the semi.

Last point. Never really rated Darren O'Sullivan before. Yesterday I thought he was fantastic, and I would have given him the MOTM. In the first half when Kerry were under the cosh, he was brillant, and in the second half, when Kerry were turning the screw, I though that he was in the middle of a lot of Kerry's moves. Brillant performance from him, best play on view in my opinion.

Sorry you can't citicise Donaghy for play acting and then praise Darren O'Sullivan without mentioning his ability to go to ground under the slightest contact... ???
#newbridgeornowhere

Kickham csc

Dinny
Agreed (Sullivan going to ground) but I always view this differently than purposly trying to get someone sent off with the "shoot by the sniper dive" a la Donaghy.

The dark arts of forward play (under pressure and a defender throws in a lazy hand, down you go), must be considered with the dark arts of defending (half fouling everytime to slow down the forward). Both cancel each other out.

So I agree that both things are unslightly, but one is part of the game (winning fouls) the other belongs to another sport.

Christ, the ref in the hurling game took a bigger slap than Donaghy and stayed on his feet

Dinny Breen

Fair enough, just felt O'Sullivan's gamesmanship needed highlighting as well, indeed football referees need to learn from their hurling counterparts...
#newbridgeornowhere

Hardy

Brennan's hit on O'Sullivan looked worse than it was (and, as always, worse again in slow motion, which is a very unfair tool used in this context). Nobody is making allowance for the fact that O'Sullivan fell into the hit and otherwise would have received a full frontal hit to the chest rather than the head. Calls for a red card are a bit on the hysterical side.

haranguerer

Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
Brennan's hit on O'Sullivan looked worse than it was (and, as always, worse again in slow motion, which is a very unfair tool used in this context). Nobody is making allowance for the fact that O'Sullivan fell into the hit and otherwise would have received a full frontal hit to the chest rather than the head. Calls for a red card are a bit on the hysterical side.

Not to mention a bit on the late side...


Dont know how anyone could 'not really rate' Darren O Sullivan prior to the final - hes absolutely top class and has consistently showed it btw

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haranguerer

I always thought that he was good. but yesterday I thought he was great. On hindsight, wrong choice of words in my original post.

Previously, I never liked his head down running style, running into trouble alot (especially in the big games). I didn't see much of that yesrterday