Good Priests, what have they done for you.

Started by Gaoth Dobhair Abu, March 17, 2010, 11:08:11 PM

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longrunsthefox

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
Again, if people cannot keep this thread on topic then I'll just lock it.
There are threads on this board devoted to Clerical Abuse, please post on them.

Lock it then... bullshit thread anyway...

For a bullshit thread, you posted enough on it.

Need to fight the bullshit at every opportunity. 
Will you be doing threads on the good electricians, solicitors, teachers?... it was a cynical attempt to deflect from the child abuse cover-ups   

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
Again, if people cannot keep this thread on topic then I'll just lock it.
There are threads on this board devoted to Clerical Abuse, please post on them.

Lock it then... bullshit thread anyway...

For a bullshit thread, you posted enough on it.

Need to fight the bullshit at every opportunity. 
Will you be doing threads on the good electricians, solicitors, teachers?... it was a cynical attempt to deflect from the child abuse cover-ups   

Actually there was nothing cynical about this thread being set up, I am just giving people the opportunity to give their good experiences of Priests, there are other threads here giving peoples other views on the clergy.
Is it cynical because you don't agree with it, or would you just rather people look only at the negatives?
Tbc....

longrunsthefox

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
Again, if people cannot keep this thread on topic then I'll just lock it.
There are threads on this board devoted to Clerical Abuse, please post on them.

Lock it then... bullshit thread anyway...

For a bullshit thread, you posted enough on it.

Need to fight the bullshit at every opportunity. 
Will you be doing threads on the good electricians, solicitors, teachers?... it was a cynical attempt to deflect from the child abuse cover-ups   

Actually there was nothing cynical about this thread being set up, I am just giving people the opportunity to give their good experiences of Priests, there are other threads here giving peoples other views on the clergy.
Is it cynical because you don't agree with it, or would you just rather people look only at the negatives?

So why did you not start this thread a few weeks ago rather than in the week that was all the abuse controversy?  when there was all the talk of police covering up for  Robert Hamill's killers you didn't do a good cop thread... or a good politican thread when the spotlight was on them for financial  dodgy dealings. But when the clergy are in the spotlight you started this as some sort of deflection from the accusations against them... 'you can fool some of the people etc... '

ardmhachaabu

GDA, while I appreciated the reason you posted the thread, I think it's time you locked it or deleted it.  Too many people with axes to grind have hijiacked it and the thread has lost its way
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something

Puckoon

Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 23, 2010, 06:42:15 PM
GDA, while I appreciated the reason you posted the thread, I think it's time you locked it or deleted it.  Too many people with axes to grind have hijiacked it and the thread has lost its way

Ummm - he was hammered on St Patricks night?

longrunsthefox

#185
Quote from: Puckoon on March 23, 2010, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 23, 2010, 06:42:15 PM
GDA, while I appreciated the reason you posted the thread, I think it's time you locked it or deleted it.  Too many people with axes to grind have hijiacked it and the thread has lost its way

Ummm - he was hammered on St Patricks night?

...or locked
Sort of irony in threatening to delete the Catholic priest thread or stop it when you hear what you don't want to hear. Sounds familiar  :o

ardmhachaabu

puck, what's wrong with him wanting to hear good things about priests?  Do you not think there has been enough slabbering about paedophiles in the church?  Do you not think he is perfectly entitled to ask people to take their negative shite elsewhere?  God knows, there are enough threads on here lambasting the church and clergy

Or is it the case that a few people who hate the catholic church want to keep raising the same issues over and over again, even when asked not to in one single thread?
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something

lynchbhoy

Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 23, 2010, 11:27:59 PM
puck, what's wrong with him wanting to hear good things about priests?  Do you not think there has been enough slabbering about paedophiles in the church?  Do you not think he is perfectly entitled to ask people to take their negative shite elsewhere?  God knows, there are enough threads on here lambasting the church and clergy

Or is it the case that a few people who hate the catholic church want to keep raising the same issues over and over again, even when asked not to in one single thread?
thats pretty much it - or people that want to continue to put forward their own'conspiricy theories' that the vatican knew all that was going on (must be through ESP or something).

While a lot of 'bad' (and in the sex offenses - criminal ) things have been done by priests and no marks out of ten for the Catholic church in their lack of action in the past number of years over this - it still stands that the Catholic church in Ireland has help raise people, society and thus education and industry from the bogs and gutters to enable its people to become leading edge and the country likewise and punch well above its weight. While the excesses of the Celtic tiger are gone, the legacy now is wealth and industry and a life beyond what could ever have been imagined by people 25 years ago.
The role of the Catholic church and priests in that is paramount.

I expect the role now of the catholic church to subside, as they are no longer as useful as they once were and are effectively discarded. But their legacy is all around us.
..........

longrunsthefox

#188
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 23, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
Again, if people cannot keep this thread on topic then I'll just lock it.
There are threads on this board devoted to Clerical Abuse, please post on them.

Lock it then... bullshit thread anyway...

For a bullshit thread, you posted enough on it.

Need to fight the bullshit at every opportunity. 
Will you be doing threads on the good electricians, solicitors, teachers?... it was a cynical attempt to deflect from the child abuse cover-ups   

Actually there was nothing cynical about this thread being set up, I am just giving people the opportunity to give their good experiences of Priests, there are other threads here giving peoples other views on the clergy.
Is it cynical because you don't agree with it, or would you just rather people look only at the negatives?

Apart from that Mrs Kennedy, how did you enjoy your visit to Dallas?  ::)

supersarsfields

Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 23, 2010, 07:22:43 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 23, 2010, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 23, 2010, 06:42:15 PM
GDA, while I appreciated the reason you posted the thread, I think it's time you locked it or deleted it.  Too many people with axes to grind have hijiacked it and the thread has lost its way

Ummm - he was hammered on St Patricks night?

...or locked
Sort of irony in threatening to delete the Catholic priest thread or stop it when you hear what you don't want to hear. Sounds familiar  :o

It looks to me that he's locking it as people are going of thread. and he's got a point. There are a couple of threads dealing with the abuse. This was a thread about individual priests who have done things that have helped the community. If he went on to one of the other abuse threads and started talking about individual priests doing good things he'd be hammered for whataboutery. This is no different.
If you have no good points to make about priests then fair enough, if you want to talk about the abuse go to the right thread.

Main Street

A good priest is one who can say with clarity, that the institutionalised cover up allowing sex abusers to continue their abuse was a crime.

It would appear that the muddled guidance on this issue by the ultra stubborn hierarchy in Ireland is still confusing some members of the church.


supersarsfields

Getting closer MS well done. Any Particular priest you'd like to mention?


give her dixie

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/world-news/bishop-resigns-over-child-sex-abuse-2109763.html

Pope Benedict has accepted the resignation of a senior Irish bishop who stood down over his mishandling of clerical child sex abuse allegations, it was confirmed.

Scandal-hit former bishop of Cloyne John Magee, a one-time Vatican aide, quit the day-to-day running of parishes across rural Cork in March last year.

The cleric, from Newry, Co Down, faced scathing criticism after the church's own watchdog found he took minimal action on accusations against two of his priests and branded his child protection inadequate and dangerous.

The Catholic Church confirmed the Pope accepted his resignation at an announcement in the Vatican.

Bishop Magee, who served as private secretary to three different popes, apologised when the watchdog's report was first published on the internet the week before Christmas 2008 but refused to resign.

His daily duties were taken over by Dermot Clifford, Archbishop of neighbouring Cashel and Emly, last year.

The Archbishop said: "I would like to thank Bishop John Magee for the cooperation he has given me since my appointment as apostolic administrator to the Diocese of Cloyne.

"I wish him all God's blessings in his retirement. I ask for the continued prayers and support of the lay faithful, priests and religious of the Diocese of Cloyne for all those who have suffered abuse."

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

give her dixie

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

ludermor

Think ill start up a page ''Cardinal Brady is a good man........who has no problem covering up the rape of kids as long as its not against Canon Law, and he was just doing his job at the time, and just following orders, but a good man all the same''