NEW DISCUSSION BOARD FOR QUANTITY SURVEYORS & ESTIMATORS

[illdecide]

Semtex removes all known rock...swear to god...in seconds

[The Subbie]

Semtex removes all known rock...swear to god...in seconds

Can't seem to find a measurement rule for semtex anywhere in CESMM for some reason!!

[SLIGONIAN]

Semtex removes all known rock...swear to god...in seconds

Thanks Illdecide I'll propose that to engineers out here!! Get a few lads over from Ireland, i think we have a few experts back home .

Semtex removes all known rock...swear to god...in seconds

Can't seem to find a measurement rule for semtex anywhere in CESMM for some reason!!

I think it was in the 1970s Edition.

[lfdown2]

Im one as well for a contractor, i knew myself and Sligonian had something in common!!

Would love to work with you one day 

Im sure we would make a good team!

Especially in the weeks leading up to a Mayo/Sligo encounter 



Illdecide Rock excavation is our enemy

Uncharted rock is the ultimate enemy!!!!!!

ultimate firend i would have said....cash cow!!

[The Subbie]

Im one as well for a contractor, i knew myself and Sligonian had something in common!!

Would love to work with you one day 

Im sure we would make a good team!

Especially in the weeks leading up to a Mayo/Sligo encounter 



Illdecide Rock excavation is our enemy

Uncharted rock is the ultimate enemy!!!!!!

ultimate firend i would have said....cash cow!!

Not when the estimators put a rate of 0.001/m3 on it, pr1cks!!!!

[umgolaarmagh]

Without us QS's the project would bankrupt the Client or Contractor .

Engineers have no regards for Cost, its just get the job done mentality, just get the Subbie in, dont bother with sub contracts, retention etc...

Q.S's have no regard to the actual costs required to do a job

I.E. Engineer " i'm gonna need a 200 tonne crane for a week to get this precast lifted in"
QS " why a 200 tonne crane? my budget only allows for an 80 tonner for 3 days"
Eng "Because an 80 tonner would not be fit to lift  the precast without dramatically collapsing"
QS " oh i did'nt think of that" 

Although the old site accountants are not the worst by any means i do have to say, they are alright for slagging and robbing nice pens from, they usually have nicer hi vis coats as well 

The true bane of my life is PLANNERS 

Do not start me on about these people and their black art of ASTA and Primeavera P3  " oh we have the logic we just need to adjust the durations" no you f**king do not need to touch the durations, the durations will end been 95% of what i have told you they will be.

In Summation Q.S.'s = all right for some things ( nice coats, making tea, getting a lend of the project directors credit card for a night on d piss)  pain in the ring when they come asking the typical QS questions

Planners = dream world inhabiting, clause 14 wish list making nancy boys!!!

There is no black art to it, its just subcontractors dont have the brain power to look at the bigger picture and thats what a planner is up against, subbies who in weekly meetings promise that work can be achieved only to fail and blame it on everything else but themselves and there resources / staff.

[ballela-angel]

is there many qs's / estimators on the gaaboard

I thought I'd join in as this topic is of interest to me. I've been reading this board for many years and only posted once before. I'm originally from Down and have lived out in the States for 34 years. I have my own company and do estimating and project managing on commercial construction projects. Projects generally range from $1,000,000 to $25,000,000 with a few larger and smaller ones thrown in. I provide a full menu of services from budgetting projects as far off as 3 years down the road from when sitework begins, to buying design and then construction services, to project managing the construction thru the warranty period, which is generally a year after the buildings are occupied. Some clients ask for the whole menu and others purchase bits and pieces. It sound like your projects are a lot more fragmented and broken up among a lot of people. Does anyone provide the kind of service I do? I'm only asking, I've no intention of coming back and competing with any of you. But as regards coming back, I do keep the third Sunday of September open each year just in case I have another Down final to go to as I've been to them all except 1960 (but I was at the semi-final that year)

[umgolaarmagh]

Over in the UK projects ranging from £10- £25 million would normally be managed by one of the larger project managament / chartered qs consultancies. We have just taken on a £300,000 project in North London but its a tough market at the moment and hopefully will start to pick up new work in the new year.

which part of the states are you based in?

[ballela-angel]

which part of the states are you based in?

Vermont

[The Subbie]

Without us QS's the project would bankrupt the Client or Contractor .

Engineers have no regards for Cost, its just get the job done mentality, just get the Subbie in, dont bother with sub contracts, retention etc...

Q.S's have no regard to the actual costs required to do a job

I.E. Engineer " i'm gonna need a 200 tonne crane for a week to get this precast lifted in"
QS " why a 200 tonne crane? my budget only allows for an 80 tonner for 3 days"
Eng "Because an 80 tonner would not be fit to lift  the precast without dramatically collapsing"
QS " oh i did'nt think of that" 

Although the old site accountants are not the worst by any means i do have to say, they are alright for slagging and robbing nice pens from, they usually have nicer hi vis coats as well 

The true bane of my life is PLANNERS 

Do not start me on about these people and their black art of ASTA and Primeavera P3  " oh we have the logic we just need to adjust the durations" no you f**king do not need to touch the durations, the durations will end been 95% of what i have told you they will be.

In Summation Q.S.'s = all right for some things ( nice coats, making tea, getting a lend of the project directors credit card for a night on d piss)  pain in the ring when they come asking the typical QS questions

Planners = dream world inhabiting, clause 14 wish list making nancy boys!!!

There is no black art to it, its just subcontractors dont have the brain power to look at the bigger picture and thats what a planner is up against, subbies who in weekly meetings promise that work can be achieved only to fail and blame it on everything else but themselves and there resources / staff.

Subbie giving you a hard time lately Umgola, countercharges are the way forward!!

[umgolaarmagh]

No contra charges its all mitigation and the subbie can deliver as per usual

[highorlow]

Seen as ye lads were on the rockbreaking subject.

I happened upon these lads / this website recently when I was looking for a rock blasting price.

Have a laugh and click on the video of the 'Sinker in Kiltamagh' (need your sound on).

http://www.allrockblasting.com/types.html

[illdecide]

Seen as ye lads were on the rockbreaking subject.

I happened upon these lads / this website recently when I was looking for a rock blasting price.

Have a laugh and click on the video of the 'Sinker in Kiltamagh' (need your sound on).

http://www.allrockblasting.com/types.html

What does he say?

[highorlow]

"fire in the hole" at the start

and in between the yelping laughing - "jasus that's a mighty f**king blast"

The funny / ironic part of it is that it's part of their advertising.

[The Subbie]

"fire in the hole" at the start

and in between the yelping laughing - "jasus that's a mighty f**king blast"

The funny / ironic part of it is that it's part of their advertising.

Blasters would not be historically known for thier marketing/PR/Advertising 

They would be judged on A) can they get the job done, B) have they a name for breaking and wrecking all before and behind them C) if B is the case are their insurances up to it