Antrim Hurling

[johnneycool]

McCambridge had a great game in the semi final, but I thought Campbell run him close for motm, he set the tone with a thundering shoulder early on in the game. The 3/4 weeks then should do a lot for Graffins  fitness also. I wonder will the cushendall management chance mckeegan from the start at ff, to me he seemed to put himself about a lot more and was much more effective than the lad he replaced.

Karl was well off the pace, the Dall management are correct to throw him on for the last 10 minutes or so when lads are tired, he's still a cute hoor and can engineer a bit of space, just can't cover the ground like he used to.

In the semi-final this Dall outfit played like a team and worked like hell for each other. They'll need to maintain that same mentality to give this pretty strong Na Piarsaigh team a run for it. Its not beyond them, but they'll need to keep their discipline and focus, take their scores and TBH I'd throw McAfee in and around the square and drop a few on top of him and see what comes off it.

[Milltown Row2]

Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.

I refereed enough games and managed enough games to know when managers wind up their players to go ape shit in a game... and if you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player... I'm not saying either that managers should be accountable but they do have a position of responsibility

Which is precisely what I said - so thanks for agreeing with me.

If you reffed games where a manger was winding things up - then deal with it by putting him off the line or sticking it in your report.
If you don't know that's procedure the "you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player"


Otherwise introducing a blanket rule to make all managers accountable for players actions on the pitch is really nonsense - funny enough it's the players that's responsible for his own actions.

It's not that difficult to grasp really. Ref's these days eh.

That makes a change from the referee caused that

[theskull1]

Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

[NAG1]

Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

[Milltown Row2]

Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

[theskull1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35817959

Cause if you dont, he will find you and he will kill you 

[NAG1]

Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

Yeah I would say most refs in a probably an admirable attempt to the let the game flow, miss the first foul and then pick up the reaction.

I would say it is more common under a dropping ball, lads pulling early or low with no intention of playing the ball. Wasnt a dig at the refs MR2, just been something I have observed.

[Milltown Row2]

Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

Yeah I would say most refs in a probably an admirable attempt to the let the game flow, miss the first foul and then pick up the reaction.

I would say it is more common under a dropping ball, lads pulling early or low with no intention of playing the ball. Wasnt a dig at the refs MR2, just been something I have observed.

Look for me its try and call every foul or at the very least not let the game become a nasty affair....Tempo of the game isn't my concern and if there are fouls all the time then that's down to the players creating a stop start game... but you'll get players going on about the ref ruining the game with all the whistles !! 

I love the one, they wouldn't blow for this in Kilkenny!! feck off

[NAG1]

Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

Yeah I would say most refs in a probably an admirable attempt to the let the game flow, miss the first foul and then pick up the reaction.

I would say it is more common under a dropping ball, lads pulling early or low with no intention of playing the ball. Wasnt a dig at the refs MR2, just been something I have observed.

Look for me its try and call every foul or at the very least not let the game become a nasty affair....Tempo of the game isn't my concern and if there are fouls all the time then that's down to the players creating a stop start game... but you'll get players going on about the ref ruining the game with all the whistles !! 

I love the one, they wouldn't blow for this in Kilkenny!! feck off

This is one of my big bug bears when it comes to the inter county scene at the top level, nearly every tackle is technically a foul but none are blown. Yes the players arent looking for them in those games but a foul is a foul and in not blowing it in these games they are making life more difficult for club referees in general.

[Sleeping giant]

Best of luck to the old enemy tomorrow. The backs will take care of business. Need a few lads to show up with Mc Manus on the big day and Tommy will be back north. 

[Seamroga in exile]

Best of luck to the old enemy tomorrow. The backs will take care of business. Need a few lads to show up with Mc Manus on the big day and Tommy will be back north.

+1. I hope to have an excuse over the mountain the morra night.

[Sleeping giant]

Am reading now that the winners of the Christy Ring have the chance to play in Leinster from next year onwards. 

[Íseal agus crua isteach a]

I like the way Cushendall line out their soldiers. Hurling is a game of puck outs now a days, so all you're formations are based around that. First whean of minutes and who handles the occasion will be crucial. Loughiel paved the way by beating this team already. If Cushendall can put doubt in their minds early on then they have a great chance. Two horse race. Important they find their forwards with proper passes.

[theskull1]

I love the one, they wouldn't blow for this in Kilkenny!! feck off

Come on MR. There is some validity in that gripe

Watch TG4 against the top teams. Alot of 2/3 man tackling/fouling the arms/hands is let go in those matches. Hard to know if the TV cameras are having an impact on the decision making or not, but players up here see those teams gettting away with close to the edge technical fouls/defending.

Not saying who's right or wrong, but there isn't a consistency in what constitutes technical frees. It makes the likes of Tipp look like men possessed defending as if their lives depended on it, whilst up in Antrim you'd be classed as fouling machines for applying the same intensity to your defending.

[north_antrim_hound]

Couldn't agree more skull
The only ref that has played it square recently with Kilkenny is Barry Kelly and they hate him for it
They are the best hurlers I ever seen but also the not behind in the dark arts
Antrim don't get away with the half of it
MR 2 that's the facts
For what it's worth any time I seen you officiating you where as fair as you could be
But you can't argue with the fact that in county hurling it's a bit lob sided at times
This subject came up because of what happened to our seniors last Sunday and by all accounts one team had no interest in playing the ball
It's up to the ref to protect players who are going out to play and the ref on Sunday didn't
All the points and counterpoints won't change that