The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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red hander

A few huns on last night on Sky Sports going apeshit about happenings at Castle Greyskull and calling for Murray's head ... he might have to turn to his mate 007 to sort the restless natives out with his Walther PPK

the milkman

Great to see McGeady back, and with a goal. According to the radio Boruc was awful again, he needs to sort himself asap.

carribbear

Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2009, 12:36:18 PM
A few huns on last night on Sky Sports going apeshit about happenings at Castle Greyskull and calling for Murray's head ... he might have to turn to his mate 007 to sort the restless natives out with his Walther PPK

The Mint was shaken, not stirred I believe.

Poor performance today although give Dundee credit for fighting hard. Artur should take a wee holiday and sort his stuff out. It's becoming a liability at this stage. Would love to see the guy back to his best but a dent in confidence like that is not good for him or the team, you can see the nervousnness at the back as if they weren't bad enough.

carribbear

Quote from: the milkman on January 10, 2009, 05:23:46 PM
Great to see McGeady back, and with a goal. According to the radio Boruc was awful again, he needs to sort himself asap.

Good goal it was too. Still don't expect to see him at the club come Feb.

Myles Na G.

Only 23,000 at the match yesterday. Is that the credit crunch biting, or an indication that fans couldn't give a stuff about the Scottish Cup?

tyroneStatto

saw the highlights on bbc scotland last night - boruc had another shocker. mcgeadys goal was good but it was against very poor opposition.

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 31, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
Mulgrew was in the same boat as mcgeady and liam miller - a young lad with great potential - see what happened when mcgeady stayed and the other two went....they didnt get the game time and lost their way. The reports coming out of CP at that stage was that mulgrew was going to be a superb player, he was proving it when he went to dundee utd on loan and was playing fantastically well for them , scoring goals from LB, creating goals and they tried to sign him. Celtic took him back and he fell foul off wee gingers tantrums. Once he was punted it was obv where his career was going.
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Mulgrew was never going to be Celtic class lynchbhoy. A fantastic left foot for set pieces and crosses into the box but a total liability defensively which made him a suspect LB and not enough in his locker to make a decent LM. Been seen at every club he has been at and even yesterday I saw him at Alloa hitting two lovely long range efforts on goal but being torn to shreds in defence by our wee winger. The boy would never have made it at Celtic Park.

As for 23,000 at the game yesterday its the way it normally is for these kind of matches.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 11, 2009, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 31, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
Mulgrew was in the same boat as mcgeady and liam miller - a young lad with great potential - see what happened when mcgeady stayed and the other two went....they didnt get the game time and lost their way. The reports coming out of CP at that stage was that mulgrew was going to be a superb player, he was proving it when he went to dundee utd on loan and was playing fantastically well for them , scoring goals from LB, creating goals and they tried to sign him. Celtic took him back and he fell foul off wee gingers tantrums. Once he was punted it was obv where his career was going.
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Mulgrew was never going to be Celtic class lynchbhoy. A fantastic left foot for set pieces and crosses into the box but a total liability defensively which made him a suspect LB and not enough in his locker to make a decent LM. Been seen at every club he has been at and even yesterday I saw him at Alloa hitting two lovely long range efforts on goal but being torn to shreds in defence by our wee winger. The boy would never have made it at Celtic Park.

As for 23,000 at the game yesterday its the way it normally is for these kind of matches.
isnt that what coaching and bringing kids through the ranks is all about.
There is no guarantee that he woul dhave made it, but he was superb going forward, with expert delivery from crosses, free kicks and corners (sound like anything Celtic have been missing in recent years).
Yes he was suspect defensively - but nothing our of step with the lack of defensive ability of naylor, caldwell , wilson and a lot more in previous yeears not long gone.
Mulgrew once coached could have possibly been as good as anyone else at LB (or in defence) at Celtic - though that isnt saying much and imo is way below the standard required.

Boruc has off field difficulties whic is most obv unsettling him and affecting his game. This prob explains his dip in form and inconsistency over the past couple of years.
IMO its this kind of problem (how are wives or girlfriends going to cope in cold wet rainy windy scotland - without the lure of big city draws and attractins of say London) that puts off many of Celtic's targets over the years. Cant say I'd blame them. Those who are used to the warmer climates, and in a small way these cold wet Celtic park CL nights help seize up the warm weather loving CL teams and assist Celtic in their good home record.
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Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 11, 2009, 12:23:51 PM
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isnt that what coaching and bringing kids through the ranks is all about.
There is no guarantee that he woul dhave made it, but he was superb going forward, with expert delivery from crosses, free kicks and corners (sound like anything Celtic have been missing in recent years).
Yes he was suspect defensively - but nothing our of step with the lack of defensive ability of naylor, caldwell , wilson and a lot more in previous yeears not long gone.
Mulgrew once coached could have possibly been as good as anyone else at LB (or in defence) at Celtic - though that isnt saying much and imo is way below the standard required.

Boruc has off field difficulties whic is most obv unsettling him and affecting his game. This prob explains his dip in form and inconsistency over the past couple of years.
IMO its this kind of problem (how are wives or girlfriends going to cope in cold wet rainy windy scotland - without the lure of big city draws and attractins of say London) that puts off many of Celtic's targets over the years. Cant say I'd blame them. Those who are used to the warmer climates, and in a small way these cold wet Celtic park CL nights help seize up the warm weather loving CL teams and assist Celtic in their good home record.

Aye the weather in Poland is so much better ;). The problem Boruc has is that he is an idiot with a poor attitude. Celtic might well regret not getting shot of him when he would have commanded a far bigger transfer fee but thats not to say he cant regain his previous form.

As for Mulgrew I cant seriously believe you would rate his defensive abilities on a par with Naylor, Wilson and Caldwell. Not saying those lads are world beaters but all far better defenders than the hapless Mulrgew. As for coaching if he hadnt learned those skills by the time he left Celtic (and still hasnt despite being a full time pro for a good few years) you would suspect its not going to happen for him.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 11, 2009, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 11, 2009, 12:23:51 PM
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isnt that what coaching and bringing kids through the ranks is all about.
There is no guarantee that he woul dhave made it, but he was superb going forward, with expert delivery from crosses, free kicks and corners (sound like anything Celtic have been missing in recent years).
Yes he was suspect defensively - but nothing our of step with the lack of defensive ability of naylor, caldwell , wilson and a lot more in previous yeears not long gone.
Mulgrew once coached could have possibly been as good as anyone else at LB (or in defence) at Celtic - though that isnt saying much and imo is way below the standard required.

Boruc has off field difficulties whic is most obv unsettling him and affecting his game. This prob explains his dip in form and inconsistency over the past couple of years.
IMO its this kind of problem (how are wives or girlfriends going to cope in cold wet rainy windy scotland - without the lure of big city draws and attractins of say London) that puts off many of Celtic's targets over the years. Cant say I'd blame them. Those who are used to the warmer climates, and in a small way these cold wet Celtic park CL nights help seize up the warm weather loving CL teams and assist Celtic in their good home record.

Aye the weather in Poland is so much better ;). The problem Boruc has is that he is an idiot with a poor attitude. Celtic might well regret not getting shot of him when he would have commanded a far bigger transfer fee but thats not to say he cant regain his previous form.

As for Mulgrew I cant seriously believe you would rate his defensive abilities on a par with Naylor, Wilson and Caldwell. Not saying those lads are world beaters but all far better defenders than the hapless Mulrgew. As for coaching if he hadnt learned those skills by the time he left Celtic (and still hasnt despite being a full time pro for a good few years) you would suspect its not going to happen for him.
I dont rate wilson, caldwell ornaylor as defenders. athletes that give 100% def, but otherwise they are v poor. Its their athleticism that keeps them covering their inadequecies.

A wee bit more coaching and experience would def have taught mulgrew enough.
my example woul dbe rio ferdinand - while still not brilliant, he has been coached within inches of his life and can now defend 100000 times better than before he joined leeds under a roar of hype.

Boruc had no attitude problems and therefore no real problems with form etc prior to his off field difficulties - so I think its a bit ignorant actually to come out with that sentence. Obv you dont like him a whole lot.
As it stands big clubs are still interested in him - on the back of his excellent euro 2008 showing , with english pundits exclaiming him as one of if not the best at the competition.

Celtic dont seem to have a problem attracting polish players (though if there was a choice, I doubt if scotland would be given a second thought - Ireland are in the same boat but there is no decent soccer here so we are not in this equation).
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Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 11, 2009, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 11, 2009, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 11, 2009, 12:23:51 PM
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isnt that what coaching and bringing kids through the ranks is all about.
There is no guarantee that he woul dhave made it, but he was superb going forward, with expert delivery from crosses, free kicks and corners (sound like anything Celtic have been missing in recent years).
Yes he was suspect defensively - but nothing our of step with the lack of defensive ability of naylor, caldwell , wilson and a lot more in previous yeears not long gone.
Mulgrew once coached could have possibly been as good as anyone else at LB (or in defence) at Celtic - though that isnt saying much and imo is way below the standard required.

Boruc has off field difficulties whic is most obv unsettling him and affecting his game. This prob explains his dip in form and inconsistency over the past couple of years.
IMO its this kind of problem (how are wives or girlfriends going to cope in cold wet rainy windy scotland - without the lure of big city draws and attractins of say London) that puts off many of Celtic's targets over the years. Cant say I'd blame them. Those who are used to the warmer climates, and in a small way these cold wet Celtic park CL nights help seize up the warm weather loving CL teams and assist Celtic in their good home record.

Aye the weather in Poland is so much better ;). The problem Boruc has is that he is an idiot with a poor attitude. Celtic might well regret not getting shot of him when he would have commanded a far bigger transfer fee but thats not to say he cant regain his previous form.

As for Mulgrew I cant seriously believe you would rate his defensive abilities on a par with Naylor, Wilson and Caldwell. Not saying those lads are world beaters but all far better defenders than the hapless Mulrgew. As for coaching if he hadnt learned those skills by the time he left Celtic (and still hasnt despite being a full time pro for a good few years) you would suspect its not going to happen for him.
I dont rate wilson, caldwell ornaylor as defenders. athletes that give 100% def, but otherwise they are v poor. Its their athleticism that keeps them covering their inadequecies.

A wee bit more coaching and experience would def have taught mulgrew enough.
my example woul dbe rio ferdinand - while still not brilliant, he has been coached within inches of his life and can now defend 100000 times better than before he joined leeds under a roar of hype.

Boruc had no attitude problems and therefore no real problems with form etc prior to his off field difficulties - so I think its a bit ignorant actually to come out with that sentence. Obv you dont like him a whole lot.
As it stands big clubs are still interested in him - on the back of his excellent euro 2008 showing , with english pundits exclaiming him as one of if not the best at the competition.

Celtic dont seem to have a problem attracting polish players (though if there was a choice, I doubt if scotland would be given a second thought - Ireland are in the same boat but there is no decent soccer here so we are not in this equation).

Would disagree with that, his attitude and behaviour have been questionable for some time. Bit of a time bomb in some respects.

As for big clubs still being interested thats probably true but there have been way too many mistakes of late and the teams in question will be waiting to see if he regains form before moving. As things stand his value wouldnt be what it was.

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Jezuz lads, 23,000 while not great for a celtic match, is still a decent enough turnout for a 3rd round sc match.

It was fantastic to see young Aidaniho scoring on his rightful return to the fold, I just hope to God that he's still there at the beginning of Febuary. I think that for his own development as a player he needs to stay at Celtic for another year or two (hopefully for longer then that!) but I worry that under WGS he may suffer!
Tbc....

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 12, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
Jezuz lads, 23,000 while not great for a celtic match, is still a decent enough turnout for a 3rd round sc match.

It was fantastic to see young Aidaniho scoring on his rightful return to the fold, I just hope to God that he's still there at the beginning of Febuary. I think that for his own development as a player he needs to stay at Celtic for another year or two (hopefully for longer then that!) but I worry that under WGS he may suffer!
Would fully agree with that.
Too many have left before their apprenticeship was up and never fully made it (miller etc)

LDA, cant honestly say that Borus was anything other than superb most of the time prior to his off field problems.
The only thing that could be levelled against him was his pro-popery displays to annoy the rangers fans....but seeing that he was subject to abuse and getting abuse about his contryman compatriate Pope JP II, its understandable why he took issue with this.
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T Fearon

Thought the crowd was a bit low on Saturday myself, even for a Scottish Cup game. Enjoyed myself so much last week at the Dundee Utd game that I have decided to retrun on Saturday week for the Hibernian game.

lfdown2

Quote from: T Fearon on January 12, 2009, 02:06:14 PM
Thought the crowd was a bit low on Saturday myself, even for a Scottish Cup game. Enjoyed myself so much last week at the Dundee Utd game that I have decided to retrun on Saturday week for the Hibernian game.

thats just splendid, so delighted to hear that!!