The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[T Fearon]

I want what is best for Celtic.I am far from convinced with this manager.His start has been poor overall and he has no established pedigree and doesn't learn from past.mistakes.

[general_lee]

I want what is best for Celtic.I am far from convinced with this manager.His start has been poor overall and he has no established pedigree and doesn't learn from past.mistakes.

Given the inherent lack of quality in the Celtic squad I really don't know what you expect? Scottish football has regressed so much in 20 years, Celtic are barely Championship standard (imo) and here you are ridiculing a manager who has only had a handful of games so far.

[illdecide]

Who is in the play-off draw?
Champions route:
Seeded
Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) coefficient 44.585
FC Salzburg (AUT) 42.520
Celtic (SCO) 40.460
APOEL (CYP) 35.935
Legia Warszawa (POL) 28.000

Unseeded
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 25.775
Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) 25.625
FC København (DEN) 24.720
Hapoel Beer-Sheva (ISR) 4.725
Dundalk (IRL) 2.590

These teams will be drawn against each other...Seeded v Unseeded. This is the League Champions group.

League route:
Seeded
Manchester City* (ENG) 99.256
Porto* (POR) 92.616
Villarreal* (ESP) 60.142
Ajax (NED) 58.112
Borussia Mönchengladbach* (GER) 42.035

Unseeded
Roma* (ITA) 41.587
Steaua București (ROU) 36.576
Monaco (FRA) 36.549
Young Boys (SUI) 24.755
Rostov (RUS) 11.716

This is the next batch who will be drawn against each other...Seeded v unseeded...This is the league route (not Champions)

The draw will be at 11:00am tomorrow morning.

[AZOffaly]

I want what is best for Celtic.I am far from convinced with this manager.His start has been poor overall and he has no established pedigree and doesn't learn from past.mistakes.

Has his start been poor 'overall' though? They lost his first game in charge against a bunch of amateurs from Gibraltar. That's not a good start alright. However since then they've won that return leg comfortably, got a draw away against a very rich team, and beat them in the return leg.

I just think you do this too often. You back yourself into a corner with a contrarian opinion, and then continue to hold fast against an ever mounting onslaught of facts that would undermine that opinion, until you end up becoming a parody of yourself in every argument.

If you just said "I doubt if Rodgers is good enough, let's see what happens this season" it would be fair enough. But you can never, ever, just leave it at 'fair enough'.

[T Fearon]

If Rogers succeeds I'll be the first to applaud him.I don't see any signs though.Defeated by Lincoln was three times worse than England's defeat to Iceland.The guy has arrogance but no.passion and as he proved.with Liverpool does not learn from his mistakes.

None of Celtic's potential opponents in next round can match us in terms of player budgets,fanbase,history etc.I doubt Stephen Kenny earns as much as 2% of Rogers salary.So there is no excuse for failure.

[yellowcard]

Dundalk or the Israeli champions would be the easiest draw for Celtic and they should beat either side over 2 legs. Any of the other teams are 50/50 matches that could go either way. Celtic are sorely lacking quality in the side and I agree that they are mostly low-mid championship standard players.

[T Fearon]

But that is what you are going to get,even if they qualify for the Group Stages.The team that beat Barca wasn't exactly a team of Lionel Messis.

[stew]

But that is what you are going to get,even if they qualify for the Group Stages.The team that beat Barca wasn't exactly a team of Lionel Messis.

Tony if the players are mid level championship player do you think any manager in the world could take them were you want them to go.

Rodgers almost won the league with Liverpool, he is a spoofer but he is a good manager.

The loss to Lincoln Red Imps was pathetic but is it any different than United losing 4 0 against a lower league team in a cup a few seasons ago.

[gallsman]

If Rogers succeeds I'll be the first to applaud him.I don't see any signs though.Defeated by Lincoln was three times worse than England's defeat to Iceland.The guy has arrogance but no.passion and as he proved.with Liverpool does not learn from his mistakes.

None of Celtic's potential opponents in next round can match us in terms of player budgets,fanbase,history etc.I doubt Stephen Kenny earns as much as 2% of Rogers salary.So there is no excuse for failure.

I hear fanbase and history have a huge impact on performance on the pitch these days.

[lfdown2]

If Rogers succeeds I'll be the first to applaud him.I don't see any signs though.Defeated by Lincoln was three times worse than England's defeat to Iceland.The guy has arrogance but no.passion and as he proved.with Liverpool does not learn from his mistakes.

None of Celtic's potential opponents in next round can match us in terms of player budgets,fanbase,history etc.I doubt Stephen Kenny earns as much as 2% of Rogers salary.So there is no excuse for failure.

I hear fanbase and history have a huge impact on performance on the pitch these days.

That along with manager salary are the deciding factors in match results

[ned]

If Rogers succeeds I'll be the first to applaud him.I don't see any signs though.Defeated by Lincoln was three times worse than England's defeat to Iceland.The guy has arrogance but no.passion and as he proved.with Liverpool does not learn from his mistakes.

None of Celtic's potential opponents in next round can match us in terms of player budgets,fanbase,history etc.I doubt Stephen Kenny earns as much as 2% of Rogers salary.So there is no excuse for failure.

I hear fanbase and history have a huge impact on performance on the pitch these days.

That along with manager salary are the deciding factors in match results

If A beats B that means A are better than C cause they were beaten by B the last time they played, nevermind circumstances!
Here's one for TF. Ties in nicely with his simplification of how football should work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships

[T Fearon]

So Celtic are paying Rogers top dollar to repeat what Ronny did? Win the SPL and maybe a domestic cup? I don't think so.Celtic should not ever lose to the likes of Malmo and Maribor and that's why it was perceived a so called top manager would ensure this would no longer happen.To be fair I have no doubt that Rogers readily agreed this was a key target that he could deliver when he accepted the post and knows that his own long term credibility as a so called top manager depends on it.

[BennyHarp]

So Celtic are paying Rogers top dollar to repeat what Ronny did? Win the SPL and maybe a domestic cup? I don't think so.Celtic should not ever lose to the likes of Malmo and Maribor and that's why it was perceived a so called top manager would ensure this would no longer happen.To be fair I have no doubt that Rogers readily agreed this was a key target that he could deliver when he accepted the post and knows that his own long term credibility as a so called top manager depends on it.

I don't really follow Celtic too much, what has Rodgers done so wrong in the past few weeks to irk the wrath of Tony? Did they lose last night? Are they out of Europe? Are they way off the pace in the league already? Have they been put out of any domestic cups yet?

[T Fearon]

They are scraping through and do not inspire confidence.Also I do not know any real Celtic supporter who does not expect or indeed demand Champions League group stage qualification this season.Expectations have been raised and a huge volume of season tickets sold solely on the appointment of Brendan Rogers and the expectation he will deliver.

[Milltown Row2]

They are scraping through and do not inspire confidence.Also I do not know any real Celtic supporter who does not expect or indeed demand Champions League group stage qualification this season.Expectations have been raised and a huge volume of season tickets sold solely on the appointment of Brendan Rogers and the expectation he will deliver.

How much does he earn again?? Will Celtic throw in any decent physiotherapists' to relax him?? Free dental care too no doubt