The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

tyroneStatto · August 28, 2009, 01:24:04 PM

dont celtic owe rapid vienna one after one of their players took a dive after pretending to get hit by something from the crowd in 1984? and the match had to be replayed at old trafford?

tyroneStatto · August 28, 2009, 01:35:46 PM

http://sport.stv.tv/football/45232-celtic-the-european-victory-that-never-was/

Gaoth Dobhair Abu · August 28, 2009, 01:51:18 PM

Celtic's opponents in the Europa League will be Hamburger SV, Hapoel Tel-Aviv and Rapid Vienna.

The Parkhead side were in pot two for the draw, which took place in Monaco at 12 noon today. The first round of matches is scheduled for Thursday 17 September, with the final taking place in Hamburg, Germany, on Wednesday 12 May, 2010.

If they were to reach the final it means that Hamburger SV would have the honour playing in their home city, so under the circumstances they'll be tough opponents for Celtic to crack. Last year they finished fifth in the Bundesliga.

Hamburger SV are one of the Germany's oldest, most well known and best performing clubs, with the unique distinction of having played continuously in top-flight German football since the end of World War I. They are second after three games of the new season with two wins and a draw.

Hapoel Tel-Aviv is an Israeli football team based - you guessed it - in Tel Aviv, who last year came second in the Israeli Premier League. To date, the club has won twelve championships and twelve State Cups, making them the country's second most successful club after city rivals Maccabi Tel Aviv.

Known in their home country as Sportklub Rapid Wien, Rapid Vienna finished second in the Austrian Bundesliga in 2008–09. They underlined their strength by beating Aston Villa on away goals in a play-off to reach the group phase.

The 48 participating teams have been split into 12 groups of four, with the top two qualifying for the next round. They will be joined at that stage by the eight teams that finish third in their Champions League group.

lynchbhoy · August 28, 2009, 02:01:24 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on August 27, 2009, 04:42:18 PM

Some interesting points, ID, but in analysing what Celtic and their fans want etc, you are overlooking something far more critical i.e. what the EPL wants.

What would the presence of Celtic and Rangers add to the big teams in the EPL, who manage to fill their stadia every week as it is? In the end, C&R would either be uncompetitive in the EPL, in which case there is no point in adding them, or they would be competitive, in which case they'd be a threat to the existing big clubs.

As for the smaller clubs, which of those is going to vote for a measure (i.e. adding two Glasgow teams) that would inevitably see two from within their own ranks be forced to leave the EPL?

As it is, the whole pressure (from UEFA and FIFA) is to see the big European Leagues reduced to 18 teams (though that is being stoutly resisted by the EPL).

Unless something changes significantly, imo there is no prospect of the Old Firm being invited to join the EPL, though there may be some chance of them being admitted to the Football League, or any European Super League which might be created.

correct
it is all about what the epl wants. celtic and rangers can do nothing much about it.
However what you say is true for the current time (though I still see the scots clubs rampingup demand for tickets everywhere and not all top clubs sell out their games from recollection).

But, the last time there was any real meaning and some kind of intent from epl and epl clubs , was when there was doubts and worries over the tv revenue and contracts and with the itv soccer sponsorship thing going bust, it sent shockwaves into the business world and the feeling or fear was (with some justification and feedback eminating from broadcasters) there would be massively reduced tv monies in comparison t what they were used to.
this would have toppled some of the clubs into administration.So it was something they had to think about mitigating against.
That answer was to rejuvenate the epl and bring new sparkle to the games by adding in two of the bigger supported clubs in the world. Plus that they were the old enemy - england v scotland, it would def add a bit of spice to the epl.
I believe that this ace is still yet to be played by the epl when revenue problems with the league come up again - as invariably the business world has highs and lows.
Interesting to see michel platini come out today with a plan to disallow any club from competing in the cl in three years time if their financial status isnt to a certain level.
At risk woul dbe the likes of rangers, man u, liverpool and a lot of other fringe clubs.

lynchbhoy · August 28, 2009, 02:05:25 PM

not an easy draw at all in the eurpoa cup.
However if Celtic want to be a top level team they have to start doing it here.
Again I dont think Mowbray has any exp of europe other than the 4 games he has just presided over.
None of the venues are enough to get me booking flights. May go over to Celtic park for a home leg - so GDA/ Tone/anyone else on here let me know if you are doing likewise and we'll have a cheap pint of heavy after the game!

I know my israeli pal will be over the moon he can get to see his beloved Celts so close to home !

Gaoth Dobhair Abu · August 28, 2009, 02:08:33 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on August 28, 2009, 02:05:25 PM
not an easy draw at all in the eurpoa cup.
However if Celtic want to be a top level team they have to start doing it here.
Again I dont think Mowbray has any exp of europe other than the 4 games he has just presided over.
None of the venues are enough to get me booking flights. May go over to Celtic park for a home leg - so GDA/ Tone/anyone else on here let me know if you are doing likewise and we'll have a cheap pint of heavy after the game!

I know my israeli pal will be over the moon he can get to see his beloved Celts so close to home !

Hamburg with my St Pauli brothers!

Whens the dates being announced?

lynchbhoy · August 28, 2009, 02:28:51 PM

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 28, 2009, 02:08:33 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on August 28, 2009, 02:05:25 PM
not an easy draw at all in the eurpoa cup.
However if Celtic want to be a top level team they have to start doing it here.
Again I dont think Mowbray has any exp of europe other than the 4 games he has just presided over.
None of the venues are enough to get me booking flights. May go over to Celtic park for a home leg - so GDA/ Tone/anyone else on here let me know if you are doing likewise and we'll have a cheap pint of heavy after the game!

I know my israeli pal will be over the moon he can get to see his beloved Celts so close to home !

Hamburg with my St Pauli brothers!
Whens the dates being announced?

dont know
suppose you keep looking at uefa.com or skysports website and they will be announced soon enough.

illdecide · August 30, 2009, 12:00:51 AM

I was on Ryanair's website there and there are flights available on Thurs 1st October for the Rapid Vienna game and back on Fri 2nd for £20 return including taxes

. I think i'll have some of that.

Celtic's game against Hibs should be a good one (they usually are) and with Hibs having won their opening two games too they will fancy themselves at home but with Celtic's games in Europe (should be a bit sharper) and extra quality i expect a 2-1 for the hoops

ONeill · August 30, 2009, 02:33:23 PM

McGeady. Tut tut.

ONeill · August 30, 2009, 02:44:36 PM

Killen. Tut tut.

Gaoth Dobhair Abu · August 31, 2009, 11:05:41 AM

Artur fantastic save.

lynchbhoy · August 31, 2009, 11:06:29 AM

Quote from: ONeill on August 30, 2009, 02:33:23 PM
McGeady. Tut tut.

jeez you come over here to keep whinging - talk about being bitter and ingracious in victory !

at least there was a leg thrust in for mcgeady to dive over (I didnt see the game and only saw the video of the 'dive' - I hope mowbray fines him for doing it - though his defence was that he could have been avoiding the leg and wasnt looking for the free kick - but mowbray wont be fooled and hope he acts accordingly).
However it was nothing like eduardos dive with clear daylight between him and boruc with no thrusting limbs coming near him to jump /dive over.

also glass houses - think eboue was caught diving for arsenal v man u !
no comment eh !

lynchbhoy · August 31, 2009, 11:08:25 AM

Celtic did well to grind out the result by all accounts. Samaras scored a good goal and hit the crossbar with another. Hear that maloney had another stinker.
Good to see Boruc in top form again after a dip this past one or two years !
Hibs were going well at the start of this season with two wins, so to beat them with ten men for a lot of the game was good going !
a team Celtic have struggled against recently too !

Gaoth Dobhair Abu · August 31, 2009, 11:40:07 AM

LB good performance by the hoops, Artur was outstanding, defense did what was needed, Aidan was on form again (despite getting sent off for getting out of the way of a tackle) Maloney I thought played ok, Brown looked like a headless chicken running round with the ball and not knowing what to do with it. Samaras (goal aside) played like a donkey, big awkward and slow, guilty of missing a sitter, Skippy - was he playing?

Main Street · August 31, 2009, 12:03:09 PM

Good news for Glenn Loovens, the Dutch coach has been impressed enough

'Celtic defender Glenn Loovens has been handed his first call-up by Holland for their upcoming fixtures against Japan and Scotland.'