Kerry V Dublin

[RMDrive]

Anyone know why this game wasn's available to stream from the RTE website? My big plan was to watch it last night but could find it nowhere. Also, I must be going mad but I thought I heard Des Cahill say on the Sunday Game that he'd announce the winner of the competition after the Monday game, no sign of that either. I may be losing it though..

They announced the winner all right. Fonsie from Tyrone IIRC!

[robertemmet]

Dublin are so overhyped, they get far far too much airtime.

Until they can shbow the necessary steel to win big games, they should not ever be talked about in the media again.

Bar Stephen Cluxton yesterday, they didn't have one player that wanted it enough.  He made a few great saves, and they their midfield went AWOL, the varied his kickouts very well.

At times yesterday, Dublin
•   Didn't have a midfield
•   had players who couldn't solo run the ball
•   had players who couldn't pick up the ball
•   had players going for goals from terrible angles in the 1st quarter when they were ONLY 5-6 pts down.
•   had no defenders putting any sort of pressure on Kerry going for scores.

Dublin are one of those teams when they are 10points up, the hill will be in full voice and their players will be flying, giving high fives after every score, but when there is a 50:50 ball to be won when they are getting it tight, they will be nowhere to be seen.....and the hill won't be getting behind their team, they will be BOOING the opposition.

If Dublin are going to get any respect any more in the media, their players should roll up their sleeves and earn it.  I noticed them getting a bus to Croker yesterday.  Their management should have made them walk home after yesterday!

Sorry for the long rant, but I am just sick of the amount of hype that these players get.  What is Pat Gilroy going to do when nobody has the most important thing required to play in cship.....the ability to compete and fight for every ball.  Forget skill, forget pointtaking....just honest heart and determination.

As for Ciaran Whelan...enough said, he is a disgrace to the GAA.  As one previous post says, what does he have to do to get sent off.

Commentators talking about Ciaran Whelan coming back to win "his" All-Ireland medal.  The only time an All-Ireland Medal belongs to anyone is on the third Sunday of September in the winners dressing room.

[Yes I Would]

Dublin are so overhyped, they get far far too much airtime.

Until they can shbow the necessary steel to win big games, they should not ever be talked about in the media again.

Bar Stephen Cluxton yesterday, they didn't have one player that wanted it enough.  He made a few great saves, and they their midfield went AWOL, the varied his kickouts very well.

At times yesterday, Dublin
•   Didn't have a midfield
•   had players who couldn't solo run the ball the ball
•   had players who couldn't pick up the ball
•   had players going for goals from terrible angles in the 1st quarter when they were ONLY 5-6 pts down.
•   had no defenders putting any sort of pressure on Kerry going for scores.

Dublin are one of those teams when they are 10points up, the hill will be in full voice and their players will be flying, giving high fives after every score, but when there is a 50:50 ball to be won when they are getting it tight, they will be nowhere to be scene.....and the hill won't be getting behind their team, they will be BOOING the opposition.

If Dublin are going to get any respect any more in the media, their players should roll up their sleeves and earn it.  I noticed them getting a bus to Croker yesterday.  Their management should have made them walk home after yesterday!

Sorry for the long rant, but I am just sick of the amount of hype that these players get.  What is Pat Gilroy going to do when nobody has the most important thing required to play in cship.....the ability to compete and fight for every ball.  Forget skill, forget pointtaking....just honest heart and determination.

As for Ciaran Whelan...enough said, he is a disgrace to the GAA.  As one previous post says, what does he have to do to get sent off.

Commentators talking about Ciaran Whelan coming back to win "his" All-Ireland medal.  The only time an All-Ireland Medal belongs to anyone is on the third Sunday of September in the winners dressing room.

Spot on RE. A bit like Derry in the north!

[INDIANA]

Dublin are so overhyped, they get far far too much airtime.

Until they can shbow the necessary steel to win big games, they should not ever be talked about in the media again.

Bar Stephen Cluxton yesterday, they didn't have one player that wanted it enough.  He made a few great saves, and they their midfield went AWOL, the varied his kickouts very well.

At times yesterday, Dublin
•   Didn't have a midfield
•   had players who couldn't solo run the ball
•   had players who couldn't pick up the ball
•   had players going for goals from terrible angles in the 1st quarter when they were ONLY 5-6 pts down.
•   had no defenders putting any sort of pressure on Kerry going for scores.

Dublin are one of those teams when they are 10points up, the hill will be in full voice and their players will be flying, giving high fives after every score, but when there is a 50:50 ball to be won when they are getting it tight, they will be nowhere to be seen.....and the hill won't be getting behind their team, they will be BOOING the opposition.

If Dublin are going to get any respect any more in the media, their players should roll up their sleeves and earn it.  I noticed them getting a bus to Croker yesterday.  Their management should have made them walk home after yesterday!

Sorry for the long rant, but I am just sick of the amount of hype that these players get.  What is Pat Gilroy going to do when nobody has the most important thing required to play in cship.....the ability to compete and fight for every ball.  Forget skill, forget pointtaking....just honest heart and determination.

As for Ciaran Whelan...enough said, he is a disgrace to the GAA.  As one previous post says, what does he have to do to get sent off.

Commentators talking about Ciaran Whelan coming back to win "his" All-Ireland medal.  The only time an All-Ireland Medal belongs to anyone is on the third Sunday of September in the winners dressing room.

What would you know about winning all--irelands personally? Have you even got one at any level? I bet you don't. So how you can you can justify stating someone came back to "win" an all-ireland is bullshit. He came back to play for Dublin nothing else- there are no guarantees in life.Ciaran Whelan has had the same number of trangressions as many others from your county and beyond. Thats a fact. You can't see beyond the blue jersey. thats your problem. Has he transgressed anymore than bellew, mc menamin, mick lyons etc etc. I could go on and on and on but talking to people like you about it is pointless. You've got your own little agendas that date back to the 70's when Dublin were good.

[robertemmet]

I didn't say I have any All-Irelands.  I also never said that Ciaran Whelan can back to win "his" All-Ireland.  Its what the commentator said.....thats that I am tryiong to highlight.

My whole point is that the Dublin team get far too much media attention.  The media build them up far too much.

Ciaran Whelan is always getting wee dirty punches, elbows in, but never seems to get sent off.  There are other players, but that doesn't make what Ciaran Whelan done yesterday right.

[INDIANA]

We don't ask for the attention but it sells newspapers. Dublin have one press conference every 3 weeks- same as any other county if they are still in the championship. To have 80k at a dublin game is used as a stick to beat us? Would you prefer if they stayed at home. The Gaa got 5m in gate receipts yesterday. Thats not a bad thing for the association. But it will be a long time before a full house is seen at a dublin game again.

[orangeman]

We don't ask for the attention but it sells newspapers. Dublin have one press conference every 3 weeks- same as any other county if they are still in the championship. To have 80k at a dublin game is used as a stick to beat us? Would you prefer if they stayed at home. The Gaa got 5m in gate receipts yesterday. Thats not a bad thing for the association. But it will be a long time before a full house is seen at a dublin game again.

[/b]


Do you really think so ? Tyrone hammered Dublin in the quarter final last year but 5 months later under lights in a national league game, it was house full again in Croker. Granted it was 125 years, but it was still only a NFL game. Dublin are great supporters of their team and I reckon they'll come out in force again.

[Archie Mitchell]

Paddy Heaney refusing to eat humble pie today.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

It might be easier said than done, but Dublin really need to lose in Leinster before they'll progress beyond the Quarters it would seem. Winning Leinster will continue to set them up so high on that pedestal (not of their own doing), from where it's impossible for them to come back down to the necessary level to challenge the battle-hardened Qualifier coming though in the Quarters. Dublin need the hard, uncertain, graft of the Qualifiers to keep them firmly rooted to the task at hand, without the fanfare of their latest consecutive Leinster triumph ringing in their ears.

[yellowcard]

Paddy Heaney refusing to eat humble pie today.

Not surprising really as he can't be seen to back track on the basis of 70 minutes football. However the facts speak for themselves. Based on the last 8 0r 9 years this Kerry side has nothing to prove to the likes of Paddy Heaney, Liam Hayes etc. They are one of the finest sides ever probably only bettered by the 70's kerry side and history will judge them as just that. But for Tyrone they would now be attempting 6 in a row.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Paddy Heaney refusing to eat humble pie today.

- Those readers and acquaintances who are calling for me to apologise for my obituary on Kerry football last week will have to wait.

I'm sticking by my comments. I never said the Dubs would beat Kerry. (Everybody beats the Dubs.)

But I did state that Kerry would get beaten in Croke Park this summer. Until such times as I'm proved wrong, no humble pie will be eaten.

[INDIANA]

It might be easier said than done, but Dublin really need to lose in Leinster before they'll progress beyond the Quarters it would seem. Winning Leinster will continue to set them up so high on that pedestal (not of their own doing), from where it's impossible for them to come back down to the necessary level to challenge the battle-hardened Qualifier coming though in the Quarters. Dublin need the hard, uncertain, graft of the Qualifiers to keep them firmly rooted to the task at hand, without the fanfare of their latest consecutive Leinster triumph ringing in their ears.

Worth a shot but won't ultimately bring home the big one. We're not good enough. Simple as. And I've been saying it for some time now.

[Drumanee 1]

Dublin are so overhyped, they get far far too much airtime.

Until they can shbow the necessary steel to win big games, they should not ever be talked about in the media again.

Bar Stephen Cluxton yesterday, they didn't have one player that wanted it enough.  He made a few great saves, and they their midfield went AWOL, the varied his kickouts very well.

At times yesterday, Dublin
•   Didn't have a midfield
•   had players who couldn't solo run the ball
•   had players who couldn't pick up the ball
•   had players going for goals from terrible angles in the 1st quarter when they were ONLY 5-6 pts down.
•   had no defenders putting any sort of pressure on Kerry going for scores.

Dublin are one of those teams when they are 10points up, the hill will be in full voice and their players will be flying, giving high fives after every score, but when there is a 50:50 ball to be won when they are getting it tight, they will be nowhere to be seen.....and the hill won't be getting behind their team, they will be BOOING the opposition.

If Dublin are going to get any respect any more in the media, their players should roll up their sleeves and earn it.  I noticed them getting a bus to Croker yesterday.  Their management should have made them walk home after yesterday!

Sorry for the long rant, but I am just sick of the amount of hype that these players get.  What is Pat Gilroy going to do when nobody has the most important thing required to play in cship.....the ability to compete and fight for every ball.  Forget skill, forget pointtaking....just honest heart and determination.

As for Ciaran Whelan...enough said, he is a disgrace to the GAA.  As one previous post says, what does he have to do to get sent off.

Commentators talking about Ciaran Whelan coming back to win "his" All-Ireland medal.  The only time an All-Ireland Medal belongs to anyone is on the third Sunday of September in the winners dressing room.

What would you know about winning all--irelands personally? Have you even got one at any level? I bet you don't. So how you can you can justify stating someone came back to "win" an all-ireland is bullshit. He came back to play for Dublin nothing else- there are no guarantees in life.Ciaran Whelan has had the same number of trangressions as many others from your county and beyond. Thats a fact. You can't see beyond the blue jersey. thats your problem. Has he transgressed anymore than bellew, mc menamin, mick lyons etc etc. I could go on and on and on but talking to people like you about it is pointless. You've got your own little agendas that date back to the 70's when Dublin were good.

in a previous thread where you were taking the high moral ground you said that you would critcise dublin exactly the same if they resorted to the same behaviour,well whelan and alot of other dublin players were a disgrace in the last 20mins,whats the difference in fergal doherty kicking a opponent on the calf than taking the gooch with both legs and nearly putting him into the canal end?and trying to defend whelan because others have done the same...well just go back and read your own response when this argument was put to yourself in a previous thread.

[INDIANA]

We don't ask for the attention but it sells newspapers. Dublin have one press conference every 3 weeks- same as any other county if they are still in the championship. To have 80k at a dublin game is used as a stick to beat us? Would you prefer if they stayed at home. The Gaa got 5m in gate receipts yesterday. Thats not a bad thing for the association. But it will be a long time before a full house is seen at a dublin game again.

[/b]


Do you really think so ? Tyrone hammered Dublin in the quarter final last year but 5 months later under lights in a national league game, it was house full again in Croker. Granted it was 125 years, but it was still only a NFL game. Dublin are great supporters of their team and I reckon they'll come out in force again.

That was different yesterday. Last year was a bad day at the office. Yesterday was an embarrassement. Will have a massive impact that defeat. I only hope its used as a reference point to put the changes in place structurally within the Dublin scene so that some good may come out of it Won't be holding my breath though.

[fearglasmor]

Paddy Heaney refusing to eat humble pie today.

- Those readers and acquaintances who are calling for me to apologise for my obituary on Kerry football last week will have to wait.

I'm sticking by my comments. I never said the Dubs would beat Kerry. (Everybody beats the Dubs.)

But I did state that Kerry would get beaten in Croke Park this summer. Until such times as I'm proved wrong, no humble pie will be eaten.

If all he said was that Kerry would be beat in Croke Park this year, then there would be nothing remarkable in that.
But there was an awful lot more bullshite written than that. The man is obviously a clown.