Doire v Mhuineacháin 24/5/09

[JMohan]

Tommy Freeman lost his appeal against his 8-week ban.

Doherty having his case heard tonight.

Have to laugh at the Monaghan Chairman saying how Tommay was never red carded in his life ...

Tommy Freeman has seen more Red Cards than almost any other footballer on that County team - he's got more cards than Hallmark

Can you list them?

Can he even list one?

I wonder are Derry going to use the Brolly defense?

No, there's been too many. 

So now it's Saint Tommy is it? You pair mustn't have ever seen him play club football - he's far from an angel and if you saw any club football in Monaghan you'd know better than to start that ... as for Connolly spouting off he should also have known better.

[saffron sam2]

Tommy Freeman lost his appeal against his 8-week ban.

Doherty having his case heard tonight.

Have to laugh at the Monaghan Chairman saying how Tommay was never red carded in his life ...

Tommy Freeman has seen more Red Cards than almost any other footballer on that County team - he's got more cards than Hallmark

Can you list them?

Has Tommy ever been suspended before?

Is he related to the Tommy Freeman who received an 8 week ban for his part in a melee that led to a Magheracloone - Latton league game being abandoned in December 2007? A suspension, incidently, that a Mr Connolly, chairman of the Monaghan county board, is fully aware of.

Mr Connolly is making a tit of himself here.

As indeed are the Derry county board. Mullen fully deserves eight weeks for his actions - comparisons with either McMenamin or McGuian are irrelevant and the Glenullan man should take his medicine.

[orangeman]

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

[Archie Mitchell]

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

As he has shown in the past he is not a dirty player but is a fair and physical player.

[Maguire01]

Tommy Freeman lost his appeal against his 8-week ban.

Doherty having his case heard tonight.

Have to laugh at the Monaghan Chairman saying how Tommay was never red carded in his life ...

Tommy Freeman has seen more Red Cards than almost any other footballer on that County team - he's got more cards than Hallmark

Can you list them?

Can he even list one?

I wonder are Derry going to use the Brolly defense?

No, there's been too many. 

So now it's Saint Tommy is it? You pair mustn't have ever seen him play club football - he's far from an angel and if you saw any club football in Monaghan you'd know better than to start that ... as for Connolly spouting off he should also have known better.

I thought as much. Hot air.

I never said he was an angel - i never heard anyone saying that; that was the official line for Doherty as I recall.

I'm sure if we bring club records into it there's a fair few red cards on both teams. But you did appear to be talking about county football and so far haven't been able to give even one example. Hallmark must have very little stock.

[Maguire01]

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

As he has shown in the past he is not a dirty player but is a fair and physical player.

Since when has past form been cosidered in reducing a sanction?

[tyrone86]

As he has shown in the past he is not a dirty player but is a fair and physical player.

You aren't going to get a suspension reduced on something being out of character.

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

I'm not 100% sure what the original charge was but I presume he was done for "Kicking, with force or attempting to cause injury" - Category 3 & 8 weeks. If the ban was indeed reduced then it's probably down as Kicking with minimal force - Category 2 & 4 weeks - again, I'd presume the interpretation of force is the difference in the length of sentence between the CCCC and the CHC

[tyrone86]

What will be interesting to know is will Doherty miss the Tyrone game anyway? If you're sent off with a straight red, you miss the next game in the Championship regardless of when the suspension is up - I'm not sure if this is the case for post match suspensions.

[Bensars]

Feck me, theres a deafening silence in here this morning

[orangeman]

Feck me, theres a deafening silence in here this morning

Stunned silence.

[Will Hunting]

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

On what basis was he given 8 weeks in the first place?

Good to hear that Mullan and Doherty both have their bans reduced - justice has been done. In line with what has gone before for Mullan's offence, 4 weeks appears to be the correct sanction.

[Bensars]

Sunday game showed a clear head butt to Kevin McGuckin and in fairness McGuckin didn't go down like some players have but there was clear as day. Clerkin deserves a ban for his knee also. I'm glad Derry are accepting Mullan's punishment and only seeking to get Doherty's ban reduced. Unlike some Counties who will appeal anything and everything no matter what the player has done wrong!

McGuckin didn't go down because he wasn't touched.

Are you Derry wans not fed up yet pleading the innocent victims because everybody else is fed up listening to ye

Stay out of the Derry v Monaghan thread then.

Have to agree with screenexile on this one - good to see that Derry aren't taking this to the DRA, High Courts etc. Other county's have totally exhausted this process at every turn around instead of accepting their medicine.

I'm still not quite sure how Mullan got eight weeks when a similar incident earlier in the year only warranted a four week ban. Which was appealed of course, in keeping with the form expected from that particular county.

[orangeman]

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

On what basis was he given 8 weeks in the first place?

Good to hear that Mullan and Doherty both have their bans reduced - justice has been done. In line with what has gone before for Mullan's offence, 4 weeks appears to be the correct sanction.

Mullen's hasn't been reduced  - it wasn't even appealed.

[screenexile]

On what basis was Fergal Doherty's ban reduced to 4 weeks ?

On what basis was he given 8 weeks in the first place?

Good to hear that Mullan and Doherty both have their bans reduced - justice has been done. In line with what has gone before for Mullan's offence, 4 weeks appears to be the correct sanction.

Mullen's hasn't been reduced  - it wasn't even appealed.

It was!

From derrygaa.ie

Doherty & Mullan's suspensions reduced

Senior players, Fergal Doherty and Brian Mullan have had their eight-week suspension halved after an appeal to GAA disciplinary chiefs.

Both Fergal and Brian will miss next weekends Ulster Semi final clash with Tyrone but will be available for any games thereafter.

Good for the team that both players will only be missing for one game but I think Mullan's actions were indefensible and we should have left that suspension alone. I guess the fact that precedent was set earlier in the year for Tommy McGuigan's incident dictated that he should only get 4 weeks instead of the original 8 proposed.

[tyronefan]

Monaghan is going to be pissed off as Tommy Freeman's 8 weeks was upheld and these 2 are reduced