Team of the noughties

Started by blewuporstuffed, April 23, 2009, 03:29:36 PM

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longrunsthefox

Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
P McConnell (Tyrone)

McMenamin(Tyrone)
McAnallenn(Tyrone)
Joe McMahon(Tyrone)

Cavlan (Tyrone)
Gormley (Tyrone)
Jordan (Tyrone)

Cavanagh (Tyrone)
McGinley (Tyrone)

Dooher (Tyrone)
Brian McGuigan (Tyrone)
Mellan (Tyrone)

Mulligan (Tyrone)
Canavan (Tyrone)
O'Neill (Tyrone)



Put Chris Lawn full back-Cormac to midfield-Cavanagh to wing half forward and bench Mellon and you're near there. Cavlan not a wing half back tho..throw him in for last 20 minutes as never got full 70 out of him anyway.   

tyrone86

Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.

Did you hurt yourself?

To include Cavlan in any "team of the decade" (even a Clarke's one) indicates that there must have been at least a mild form of brain damage

SidelineKick

Quote from: tyrone86 on April 23, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.

Did you hurt yourself?

To include Cavlan in any "team of the decade" (even a Clarke's one) indicates that there must have been at least a mild form of brain damage

:D
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Puckoon

Fair point 86, but he was a vital cog to the 03 win.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on April 23, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.

Did you hurt yourself?

To include Cavlan in any "team of the decade" (even a Clarke's one) indicates that there must have been at least a mild form of brain damage

:D
i 'd say he'd make a 'unfulfilled potential team of the decade'
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SidelineKick

Quote from: Puckoon on April 23, 2009, 05:13:35 PM
Fair point 86, but he was a vital cog to the 03 win.

Certainly was, he scored a real beauty of a point that day, wee baldy fed it out to him. Great to watch.
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eireogatron

Quote from: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: eireogatron on April 23, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
This is my team. Get over it!! I am choosing 15 from the entire inter county roster for the last 9 years!! There will be differences in everyones teams.

Oisin may have scored frees, but he SCORED THEM!! I never subscribe to the notion that frees are not as important as scores from play. They are harder for the most part as you HAVE to score them you are the only man on the field that can do it and the whole county relies on you, the pressure handling and nerve required to do this at that level is remarkable. Also, contributed greatly to all of Cross and Armaghs success from general play. IMO no McConville = no Armagh titles. Thats how important he is.

Owens - outstanding in bad team AT FULL BACK!winner of 2 all stars. I think he's the best about in his position.

Dessie Dolan - led, no - dragged,  Westmeath to their first ever championship and is a consistently high scorer

Alan Brogan - 5 Leinster titles or so, Dublins best player, scoring machine.

Whole point of a discussion board is to discuss, not too tell people to "get over it".

Browne is a certainty. You can not talk about Dolan dragging teams through and then ignore Browne...IMO of course.

fair enough. I was disagreeing about the pecking order some fans have about the Armagh forwards, in particular Oisin, more than Declan Browne to be honest. But I dont have to pick Browne do I? or is it "everyones team of the noughties but must have Declan Browne 15"??

Why does Dolan have to be compared to Browne anyway? The only reason I mentioned Dolan in that post is because I was questioned about his credibility, of which I think he has plenty. I didn't even say Brownes name never mind say he shouldn't be thought of in such high regard which is what appears to be being levelled at me. Are you Declan Browne? If so sorry, but you're not in my team - you are a cracking player though.

The reason I said "get over it" is because a couple of people were giving me stick about one player (Owens) within 2 minutes of me posting, it was not meant to be aggressive or anything , just saying "I have Barry Owens in my team whats the big deal?". I personally think hes the best full back in the country and has been for 5 years, thats why I picked him.

blewuporstuffed

no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
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Hoopeddefender

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o

Thats cause he is pure dung just like that chap Lawn from Moortown who'll not be ousting wee Ryan Mellan from my side. By the way that Tyrone team would beat any of yours. Just because they would knoe how to play with each other.

Maybe swap Cavlan for McCrossan but he was too hairy for my liking
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muppet

Time to point out to the Ulster bods that there are counties other than Kerry and Ulster. Also as for Armagh being included as a dominant team of the noughties, there are three other counties who have made as many finals as they have in the noughties.

Keeper, no stand out in this position as say John O'Leary would have in his day. Clucko is as good a shot stopper as there, great at kick-outs, but is but prone to daftness usually associated with a keeper from Roscommon. He has too many All-Stars for my liking but I'll give him the nod due to lack of a real alternative.

1. Stephen Cluxton

Darren Fay is a cert for me along with Sean Marty Lockhart. I like Canty but imagine if Conor McAnallen had the extra years with the current Tyrone team. He gets my vote. Marc O'Sé very unlucky to lose out. Honarable mention to Cathal Daly.

2. SM Lockhart 3. Conor McAnallen 4. Darren Fay

Seamus Moynihan was a better half-back than FB so gets in here as one of the best footballers I've seen. Sean Óg De Paor gets it at LHB with an honourable mention to Anthony Rainbow who soldiered on for years. McGeeney is a cert but you have to mention Jimmy Nallen, Gormley, Cassidy and Tomás Ó'Sé who is top class but I don't rate quite as highly as everyone else seems to.

5. Seamus Moynihan 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor

Midfield is probably like the keepers in that other decades probably had more quality candidates. O'Hara, Tohill, and McGrane would have shone in any era but I am going for Ó'Sé & Walsh.

8. Dara Ó'Sé  9. Kevin Walsh

Now the real problems start. Any of a large number of players have a case. We can point to great days they all had while detractors can easily point to other days when things went wrong. It comes down to personal preferences and maybe which days you saw more of. I'd have seen more games in the west obviously so McDonald and Joyce are in. Canavan has to be in along with Stevie McDonnell. Gooch has to be there and I'll go back to a young Donnellan for the last place. Forde, Brown, the inimitable Colin Corkery, Dessie Dolan, Ollie Murphy,Stephen O'Neill, Kieran Donaghy, Tommy Freeman and Coulter among others could easily be named on the basis of great performances they have given. But there are only 6 places.

10. M. Donnellan 11. Ciaran McDonald 12 P. Joyce

13. Stevie McDonnell 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper.

This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.

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blewuporstuffed

Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM

This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.


:D i like your confidence muppet
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

muppet

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM

This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.


:D i like your confidence muppet

Yes but I already see an embarrassing omission in Sean Kavanagh.  :-[ :-[ :-[
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blewuporstuffed

Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM

This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.


:D i like your confidence muppet

Yes but I already see an embarrassing omission in Sean Kavanagh.  :-[ :-[ :-[

right, well whos for the chop then? ??? ??? ???
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TacadoirArdMhacha

Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
Time to point out to the Ulster bods that there are counties other than Kerry and Ulster. Also as for Armagh being included as a dominant team of the noughties, there are three other counties who have made as many finals as they have in the noughties.

Keeper, no stand out in this position as say John O'Leary would have in his day. Clucko is as good a shot stopper as there, great at kick-outs, but is but prone to daftness usually associated with a keeper from Roscommon. He has too many All-Stars for my liking but I'll give him the nod due to lack of a real alternative.

1. Stephen Cluxton

Darren Fay is a cert for me along with Sean Marty Lockhart. I like Canty but imagine if Conor McAnallen had the extra years with the current Tyrone team. He gets my vote. Marc O'Sé very unlucky to lose out. Honarable mention to Cathal Daly.

2. SM Lockhart 3. Conor McAnallen 4. Darren Fay

Seamus Moynihan was a better half-back than FB so gets in here as one of the best footballers I've seen. Sean Óg De Paor gets it at LHB with an honourable mention to Anthony Rainbow who soldiered on for years. McGeeney is a cert but you have to mention Jimmy Nallen, Gormley, Cassidy and Tomás Ó'Sé who is top class but I don't rate quite as highly as everyone else seems to.

5. Seamus Moynihan 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor

Midfield is probably like the keepers in that other decades probably had more quality candidates. O'Hara, Tohill, and McGrane would have shone in any era but I am going for Ó'Sé & Walsh.

8. Dara Ó'Sé  9. Kevin Walsh

Now the real problems start. Any of a large number of players have a case. We can point to great days they all had while detractors can easily point to other days when things went wrong. It comes down to personal preferences and maybe which days you saw more of. I'd have seen more games in the west obviously so McDonald and Joyce are in. Canavan has to be in along with Stevie McDonnell. Gooch has to be there and I'll go back to a young Donnellan for the last place. Forde, Brown, the inimitable Colin Corkery, Dessie Dolan, Ollie Murphy,Stephen O'Neill, Kieran Donaghy, Tommy Freeman and Coulter among others could easily be named on the basis of great performances they have given. But there are only 6 places.

10. M. Donnellan 11. Ciaran McDonald 12 P. Joyce

13. Stevie McDonnell 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper.

This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.



Funny enough muppet, only one poster had a team of just Ulster and Kerry players. You mention 3 other counties who made as many finals as Armagh in the noughties (assume this is not including Kerry & Tyrone). Mayo, Galway and who else?

And speaking of the pot calling the kettle black, your own side is surely a bit too Connacht-centric. 4 players from a Galway side that was past its peak for most of the decade. Agree with you on Fay - to be honest I'd forgotten about him. Would probably have him ahead of Lynch on my team or put Fay at full back and shifting Moyinhan to wing half back, like yourself and Jordan to the subs bench.
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muppet

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Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM

This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.


:D i like your confidence muppet

Yes but I already see an embarrassing omission in Sean Kavanagh.  :-[ :-[ :-[

right, well whos for the chop then? ??? ??? ???

I'll put Canavan in my 1990s team along with Maurice Fitz. No need for any other players on that team. I'm sure Peter wouldn't mind.
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