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Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 08, 2025, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: loughshore_hallion on October 08, 2025, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Bring back kellys inn on October 08, 2025, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 08, 2025, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 08, 2025, 09:33:36 AMWould be some Achievement for errigal if they get over the line on Sunday, would make it that they will be in 4 senior finals in a row. Same as how many clubs they can choose from
cookstown and errigal are on the same wavelength with the brown envolopes i doubt
This is coming at a great cost for Mugsys bar, as half the counties refs drink for free in it, aswell as Kellys inn
Kellys Inn is in the past. you may forget about it
Some men are still struglling to come to terms with it, although i have heard canavan is giving a meal and a pint along with the brown envelope for sundays clash with trillick.

Your man sounds like the man that goes to the pub to watch games so he doesnt have to pay for it. LOL
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

Bring back kellys inn

Quote from: Mountfield Munter on October 08, 2025, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: Bring back kellys inn on October 08, 2025, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: Mountfield Munter on October 08, 2025, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 08, 2025, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: loughshore_hallion on October 08, 2025, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Bring back kellys inn on October 08, 2025, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 08, 2025, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 08, 2025, 09:33:36 AMWould be some Achievement for errigal if they get over the line on Sunday, would make it that they will be in 4 senior finals in a row. Same as how many clubs they can choose from
cookstown and errigal are on the same wavelength with the brown envolopes i doubt
This is coming at a great cost for Mugsys bar, as half the counties refs drink for free in it, aswell as Kellys inn
Kellys Inn is in the past. you may forget about it
Some men are still struglling to come to terms with it, although i have heard canavan is giving a meal and a pint along with the brown envelope for sundays clash with trillick.


Unpopular opinion but I think this pintandgaaman doesnt have a clue
His arse is jealous of the shite that comes out of his mouth.

No foul play on this chat, you should know this by now after a whisper that you got banned on ure last account
Shites not a foul word

Bring back kellys inn

Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 12:27:40 PM
Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 08, 2025, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: loughshore_hallion on October 08, 2025, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Bring back kellys inn on October 08, 2025, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 08, 2025, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 08, 2025, 09:33:36 AMWould be some Achievement for errigal if they get over the line on Sunday, would make it that they will be in 4 senior finals in a row. Same as how many clubs they can choose from
cookstown and errigal are on the same wavelength with the brown envolopes i doubt
This is coming at a great cost for Mugsys bar, as half the counties refs drink for free in it, aswell as Kellys inn
Kellys Inn is in the past. you may forget about it
Some men are still struglling to come to terms with it, although i have heard canavan is giving a meal and a pint along with the brown envelope for sundays clash with trillick.

Your man sounds like the man that goes to the pub to watch games so he doesnt have to pay for it. LOL
aye clown, repeats what he hears from the barman into this

Sean Og Patriots

Did drumragh have a few errigal players playing last night?
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

bringbackdregish

Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.

Strip them naked is crazy

GlenMan

Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.

No. We shouldn't. But they simply shouldn't get another game in the Championship after such a bad performance.

If it was a player they'd be dropped or subbed off.

I don't expect referees to be perfect, I expect that they will make some decisions that people might view as wrong. But when it happens consistently, it needs to be dealt with.

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.

No. We shouldn't. But they simply shouldn't get another game in the Championship after such a bad performance.

If it was a player they'd be dropped or subbed off.

I don't expect referees to be perfect, I expect that they will make some decisions that people might view as wrong. But when it happens consistently, it needs to be dealt with.

So lets get referee sub bench made at every pitch with a referee management team (made up of referees?) who can sub on & off referees who aren't performing???

Where do we start?

Getting enough referees for each game would be top of the list then we can worry about getting back ups.  :)
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

alwaysbackthedraw

Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 02:13:36 PM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.

No. We shouldn't. But they simply shouldn't get another game in the Championship after such a bad performance.

If it was a player they'd be dropped or subbed off.

I don't expect referees to be perfect, I expect that they will make some decisions that people might view as wrong. But when it happens consistently, it needs to be dealt with.

So lets get referee sub bench made at every pitch with a referee management team (made up of referees?) who can sub on & off referees who aren't performing???

Where do we start?

Getting enough referees for each game would be top of the list then we can worry about getting back ups.  :)
Agreed there is referees doing an enormous amount of work doing multiple games a week. We need to get more from each club the more referees there are, the more quality refs we will get. A lot of armchair warriors in this who have have never lifted the whistle in their lives
'A clap on the back is only about two feet from a kick in the arse'

GlenMan

Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 08, 2025, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 02:13:36 PM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.

No. We shouldn't. But they simply shouldn't get another game in the Championship after such a bad performance.

If it was a player they'd be dropped or subbed off.

I don't expect referees to be perfect, I expect that they will make some decisions that people might view as wrong. But when it happens consistently, it needs to be dealt with.

So lets get referee sub bench made at every pitch with a referee management team (made up of referees?) who can sub on & off referees who aren't performing???

Where do we start?

Getting enough referees for each game would be top of the list then we can worry about getting back ups.  :)
Agreed there is referees doing an enormous amount of work doing multiple games a week. We need to get more from each club the more referees there are, the more quality refs we will get. A lot of armchair warriors in this who have have never lifted the whistle in their lives

Are we just happy to sit back and let these performances continue then? Under the constant guise that there aren't enough referees.

As I said, no one is expecting perfection esp not for normal acl games and underage leagues. Mistakes happen.

But for our premier competition, we need to expect better. We can't keep doing the same thing and expecting the situation to improve.

Supporters pay good money to attend, and players train for months. The situation must improve, and that starts with putting the right officials in the right games.

giveherlong

Great work by our County (Drumragh) PRO. The official highlights even have a replay of the wide/point for the avoidance of doubt 😂

alwaysbackthedraw

Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 08, 2025, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 02:13:36 PM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on October 08, 2025, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.

No. We shouldn't. But they simply shouldn't get another game in the Championship after such a bad performance.

If it was a player they'd be dropped or subbed off.

I don't expect referees to be perfect, I expect that they will make some decisions that people might view as wrong. But when it happens consistently, it needs to be dealt with.

So lets get referee sub bench made at every pitch with a referee management team (made up of referees?) who can sub on & off referees who aren't performing???

Where do we start?

Getting enough referees for each game would be top of the list then we can worry about getting back ups.  :)
Agreed there is referees doing an enormous amount of work doing multiple games a week. We need to get more from each club the more referees there are, the more quality refs we will get. A lot of armchair warriors in this who have have never lifted the whistle in their lives

Are we just happy to sit back and let these performances continue then? Under the constant guise that there aren't enough referees.

As I said, no one is expecting perfection esp not for normal acl games and underage leagues. Mistakes happen.

But for our premier competition, we need to expect better. We can't keep doing the same thing and expecting the situation to improve.

Supporters pay good money to attend, and players train for months. The situation must improve, and that starts with putting the right officials in the right games.
An idea would be for training every few months for the referees to be able to see where they are going wrong. This may already be in place correct me if I'm wrong but would be a good initiative.
'A clap on the back is only about two feet from a kick in the arse'

Mountfield Munter

Quote from: giveherlong on October 08, 2025, 02:32:36 PMGreat work by our County (Drumragh) PRO. The official highlights even have a replay of the wide/point for the avoidance of doubt 😂

Clinker😂 Wonder what way Eanaetta will get on in the battle of termonmaguirc, Men says he is the only man for the job.....its hard to know these days!

pintandgaaman

Quote from: Mountfield Munter on October 08, 2025, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on October 08, 2025, 02:32:36 PMGreat work by our County (Drumragh) PRO. The official highlights even have a replay of the wide/point for the avoidance of doubt 😂

Clinker😂 Wonder what way Eanaetta will get on in the battle of termonmaguirc, Men says he is the only man for the job.....its hard to know these days!
eanaetta only a wasta spuds, the mighty cathal bell is the only man for the job after last nights display
Was coul about clogher on Saturday mornin.

Bring back kellys inn

Quote from: Mountfield Munter on October 08, 2025, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on October 08, 2025, 02:32:36 PMGreat work by our County (Drumragh) PRO. The official highlights even have a replay of the wide/point for the avoidance of doubt 😂

Clinker😂 Wonder what way Eanaetta will get on in the battle of termonmaguirc, Men says he is the only man for the job.....its hard to know these days!
I agree. Best ref in county. Knows how to keep control of a game while letting the game flow.Should be a humdinger of a game . I back lough as the new Carmen generation are soft. Lough will make the statement that they are no pushovers and here to stay

alwaysbackthedraw

Quote from: Bring back kellys inn on October 08, 2025, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Mountfield Munter on October 08, 2025, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on October 08, 2025, 02:32:36 PMGreat work by our County (Drumragh) PRO. The official highlights even have a replay of the wide/point for the avoidance of doubt 😂

Clinker😂 Wonder what way Eanaetta will get on in the battle of termonmaguirc, Men says he is the only man for the job.....its hard to know these days!
I agree. Best ref in county. Knows how to keep control of a game while letting the game flow.Should be a humdinger of a game . I back lough as the new Carmen generation are soft. Lough will make the statement that they are no pushovers and here to stay
I agree with u there Lough have been getting closer to us each year and this will possibly be there year to come overtake us. Young lads living in there fathers shadows acting the hard men will stand nothing to carmen in the next 10 years.
'A clap on the back is only about two feet from a kick in the arse'