The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - we go again

[AZOffaly]

Injured. He may have broken a bone in his back against Carlisle I think it was.

[blewuporstuffed]

He survived the draw with Carlisle, but the draw with Everton was a humiliation too far.

Seriously, I would have thought he was safe for another game. The only logic I can think of is to use the international break as an opportunity to cleanse the stables. There are two obvious candidates, either of whom would be very popular. Shouldn't be too hard to get this right.

Right?

Draw, scraped through by the skin of their shite yesterday, not to mention a very lenient referee who allowed lucas to stay on the field after he tripped McCarthy and should have picked up his second yellow.

Liverpools MOTM was Mignolet, with two very fine saves in the first half.

He should have gottena yellow for the challenge on McCarthy, but the one he did get booked for was never a yellow

[GJL]

He survived the draw with Carlisle, but the draw with Everton was a humiliation too far.

Seriously, I would have thought he was safe for another game. The only logic I can think of is to use the international break as an opportunity to cleanse the stables. There are two obvious candidates, either of whom would be very popular. Shouldn't be too hard to get this right.

Right?

I think the decision was made a few weeks ago. They've only win 3 games in 11 and 2 of those were the first 2 games of the league. I'd say they looked at things after the WHU game and said we'll give him a few more to see how it goes. The run of poor performances was dreadful. I'd say after Carlisle the decision was made.

I still believe there is the nucleus of a very good team. Get the right manager and playing system in and the players are there to push up to challenge for top 4. By doing it now they're giving themselves a bit of a chance.

Agree. I would have thought the timing was to tie in with the international break, to give a little bit of space to get the new guy in, with as little disruption as possible.

Football's a ruthless business but managers know the story - it's results based.  Brendan can have no complaints and should know the score. He got well rewarded on the basis of getting good results.  The results haven't been good enough given the money invested.

I'd be amazed if a deal was not already done before he was sacked. It would be mad to sack him and then start hunting.

[blewuporstuffed]

He survived the draw with Carlisle, but the draw with Everton was a humiliation too far.

Seriously, I would have thought he was safe for another game. The only logic I can think of is to use the international break as an opportunity to cleanse the stables. There are two obvious candidates, either of whom would be very popular. Shouldn't be too hard to get this right.

Right?

I think the decision was made a few weeks ago. They've only win 3 games in 11 and 2 of those were the first 2 games of the league. I'd say they looked at things after the WHU game and said we'll give him a few more to see how it goes. The run of poor performances was dreadful. I'd say after Carlisle the decision was made.

I still believe there is the nucleus of a very good team. Get the right manager and playing system in and the players are there to push up to challenge for top 4. By doing it now they're giving themselves a bit of a chance.

Agree. I would have thought the timing was to tie in with the international break, to give a little bit of space to get the new guy in, with as little disruption as possible.

Football's a ruthless business but managers know the story - it's results based.  Brendan can have no complaints and should know the score. He got well rewarded on the basis of getting good results.  The results haven't been good enough given the money invested.

I'd be amazed if a deal was not already done before he was sacked. It would be mad to sack him and then start hunting.

True, but they cant come out and say that.
I would say they had already approached the likes of Klopp and Ancellotti before Rodgers was sacked

[AZOffaly]

Yeah, no law against tapping up unemployed managers, but it would have been a bit unfair on Rodgers to officially say that

[deiseach]

I would say they had already approached the likes of Klopp and Ancellotti before Rodgers was sacked

You would hope they have. I can see a couple of weeks of enduring humiliating rebuffs before claiming that they wanted Gary Mac all along.

[Walter Cronc]

If not Klopp or Ancelotti then who?? Any other contenders?

[Bingo]

I would say they had already approached the likes of Klopp and Ancellotti before Rodgers was sacked

You would hope they have. I can see a couple of weeks of enduring humiliating rebuffs before claiming that they wanted Gary Mac all along.

Its been mentioned several times over last 24 hours but the feeling is that there isn't a proper football structure in the club and the current one in place is manned by non-footballing people who themselves have greatly underperformed in  the past. When discussions start with a new man, this may come to the fore and risk losing first choice unless they get assurances of further changes. A new Dof aslo been mentioned with new manager.

[laoislad]

If not Klopp or Ancelotti then who?? Any other contenders?

Brian Kerr is the man.

[AZOffaly]

I would say they had already approached the likes of Klopp and Ancellotti before Rodgers was sacked

You would hope they have. I can see a couple of weeks of enduring humiliating rebuffs before claiming that they wanted Gary Mac all along.

Its been mentioned several times over last 24 hours but the feeling is that there isn't a proper football structure in the club and the current one in place is manned by non-footballing people who themselves have greatly underperformed in  the past. When discussions start with a new man, this may come to the fore and risk losing first choice unless they get assurances of further changes. A new Dof aslo been mentioned with new manager.

The transfer committee is bollox anyway, so I hope that's 'restructured'.

[take_yer_points]

I would say they had already approached the likes of Klopp and Ancellotti before Rodgers was sacked

You would hope they have. I can see a couple of weeks of enduring humiliating rebuffs before claiming that they wanted Gary Mac all along.

Its been mentioned several times over last 24 hours but the feeling is that there isn't a proper football structure in the club and the current one in place is manned by non-footballing people who themselves have greatly underperformed in  the past. When discussions start with a new man, this may come to the fore and risk losing first choice unless they get assurances of further changes. A new Dof aslo been mentioned with new manager.

The transfer committee is bollox anyway, so I hope that's 'restructured'.

Transfer committee stays (according to BBC anyway):

Former Borussia Dortmund boss Jurgen Klopp is Liverpool's first choice to replace Brendan Rodgers, who was sacked after Sunday's 1-1 draw at Everton.

The Northern Irishman was dismissed following almost three and a half years in charge, with the Reds in 10th position in the Premier League.

No deal has yet been done with Klopp, 48, who won two German Bundesliga titles with Dortmund.

Ex-Real Madrid boss Carlo Ancelotti, 56, is also being considered.

"The search for a new manager is under way and we hope to make an appointment in a decisive and timely manner," said a Liverpool statement announcing the departure of 42-year-old Rodgers.

The replacement, when he is appointed, will work within the existing structure and what has become known as Anfield's "transfer committee".

It is the group that plots and carries out transfer strategy and up until Sunday night consisted of Rodgers, scouts Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter, the man in charge of analysis Michael Edwards, FSG's Anfield representative Mike Gordon and chief executive Ian Ayre.

One of the big reasons for making the change was that owners FSG firmly believe someone else can get better results with the existing players and within that structure. In other words, they believe it is a squad that can and will perform better under someone other than Rodgers. 

Liverpool have won only four of their 11 games in all competitions this season, including victory on penalties against League Two Carlisle at home in the Capital One Cup.

Rodgers, who took over in June 2012, led the Reds to second place in the Premier League in 2013-14. They were top of the table with three games remaining, before losing out to Manchester City.

Liverpool are owned by Fenway Sports Group and a joint statement from principal owner John W Henry, chairman Tom Werner and president Gordon said: "We would like to place on record our sincere thanks to Brendan Rodgers for the significant contribution he has made to the club and express our gratitude for his hard work and commitment.

"All of us have experienced some wonderful moments with Brendan as manager and we are confident he will enjoy a long career in the game.

"Ambition and winning are at the heart of what we want to bring to Liverpool and we believe this change gives us the best opportunity to deliver it."

Rodgers said this week that he was "not worried" about the possibility of the sack, despite Liverpool's poor start to the season.

After the draw with Everton, he spoke of a "constant rebuilding" job and highlighted the impact of losing "four real catalysts" of his side - Jamie Carragher, Luis Suarez, Raheem Sterling and Steven Gerrard.

[AZOffaly]

That might be a fly in the ointment. I believe Klopp said he wanted control of transfer targets, etc.

[laoislad]

That might be a fly in the ointment. I believe Klopp said he wanted control of transfer targets, etc.

At this stage no one knows fcuk all I'd say.
I've read the opposite from other journos that if Klopp is appointed the FSG model as we know it would be gone.
Which I would take to mean that it would be the end of the famous transfer committee.

[AZOffaly]

Klopp made a statement along those lines when he was talking about going back working. I'll see if I can dig it out.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Here's the article in question - with one quote in it from Klopp and nothing to do with the transfer committee

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3250749/Jurgen-Klopp-Liverpool-job-transfer-committee-scrapped.html