the troubles i've seen.....

[Donagh]

break down of the deaths by area

Location No.
County Antrim 207
County Armagh 276
East Belfast 128
North Belfast 576
County Tyrone 339
West Belfast 623
County Down 243
County Fermanagh 112
Derry City 227
County Londonderry 123
Republic of Ireland 113
England 125

Don't know what that's supposed to show. You'd be better of at looking at the type of deaths in the diferent areas. To do so, go to the Cain site and put the area into the search box.

[Tony Baloney]

On a semi-related note Shuggy Orde will be with us for another while!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7854843.stm

[Puckoon]

Donagh what is the cain site?

[Double Cross]

Donagh what is the cain site?

http://tinyurl.com/amwq73

[Puckoon]

Much obliged. Smartarse

[Donagh]

Donagh what is the cain site?

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/index.html

or the deaths index


http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/sutton/

Edit: as above. 

[milltown row]

break down of the deaths by area

Location No.
County Antrim 207
County Armagh 276
East Belfast 128
North Belfast 576
County Tyrone 339
West Belfast 623
County Down 243
County Fermanagh 112
Derry City 227
County Londonderry 123
Republic of Ireland 113
England 125

Don't know what that's supposed to show. You'd be better of at looking at the type of deaths in the diferent areas. To do so, go to the Cain site and put the area into the search box.

oh i think you said it was "safer" living in west belfast than say South Armagh or north belfast.....

[Myles Na G.]

Brecknell - The applicant, Anne Brecknell, was born in 1933 and lives in Armagh in Northern Ireland. She is Trevor Brecknell's widow. On 19 December 1975 loyalist gunmen went into Donnelly's Bar, Silverbridge, in County Armagh, throwing a bomb and firing a machine gun. Trevor Brecknell, Patrick Donnelly and Michael Donnelly (aged 14) were killed and six others were seriously injured. The applicant was at the time in hospital following the birth of her daughter. In 1981 a decision was taken not to pursue charges against two people who had apparently driven the perpetrators (including a member of the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR)) on the night of the incident.

And yet people dont understand why you're not crying for a soldier.

'No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

[pintsofguinness]

Brecknell - The applicant, Anne Brecknell, was born in 1933 and lives in Armagh in Northern Ireland. She is Trevor Brecknell's widow. On 19 December 1975 loyalist gunmen went into Donnelly's Bar, Silverbridge, in County Armagh, throwing a bomb and firing a machine gun. Trevor Brecknell, Patrick Donnelly and Michael Donnelly (aged 14) were killed and six others were seriously injured. The applicant was at the time in hospital following the birth of her daughter. In 1981 a decision was taken not to pursue charges against two people who had apparently driven the perpetrators (including a member of the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR)) on the night of the incident.

And yet people dont understand why you're not crying for a soldier.

'No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Bullshit

[Owenmoresider]

Like what Puck said, growing up around the Omagh area meant that the troubles to a certain extent had less impact on day-to-day life compared to other areas of the north though of course there was still a number of incidents - the one I remember the most was the bombing of the local police station after the "Christmas Ceasfire" that the IRA would make every year around the late 1980's & early 90's. To this day I live less than 50 metres from the station, a mortar rocket went over the reinforced steel & concrete wall and destroyed the building inside the barracks while at the same time blowing out the windows, including some of our own, of nearby houses. Housing Executive came out the next day to board up the windows at first (thankfully it wasn't raining) and put new windows in two days later. A larg-ish piece of shrapnel from the rocket landed in my back garden as well. Going back to school after the Christmas/New Year break several from Dromore said that they heard the bomb go off at the time, six miles away. Had the rocket overshot the station it would have landed in the middle of a housing estate.

[Donagh]

oh i think you said it was "safer" living in west belfast than say South Armagh or north belfast.....

I said it was safer than north Belfast but it wasn't the Brits I had in mind.

[Eoghan Mag]

What pisses me off about the Troubles (or ongoing struggle for independence) is that the Good Friday agreement as applied by the Northern Courts currently is a f*cked up system. My sister was killed in a 'domestic dispute' after the agreement and the maximum sentence for the offense is deemed to be 10 years prior to the agreement. After the agreement all sentences were agreed to be cut in half. A man got 4 1/2 years for the cold blooded knifing of my sister and that to me is just with a slap on the wrist!
I found it strange too that during one of the court sittings there were lads running about on bail for gun running and kidnapping and they were sitting around in the gallery beside me.   

On one occassion another of my sisters was talking to me on the phone from Belfast when 2 bombs went off in the distance and she judged them to be about a mile away and continued on talking as if nothing remarkable had happened. She is still living there to this day.   

[milltown row]

oh i think you said it was "safer" living in west belfast than say South Armagh or north belfast.....

I said it was safer than north Belfast but it wasn't the Brits I had in mind.

maths not your strong point then

[Donagh]

oh i think you said it was "safer" living in west belfast than say South Armagh or north belfast.....

I said it was safer than north Belfast but it wasn't the Brits I had in mind.

maths not your strong point then

Obviously reading and comprehension isn't yours.

[Donagh]

What pisses me off about the Troubles (or ongoing struggle for independence) is that the Good Friday agreement as applied by the Northern Courts currently is a f*cked up system. My sister was killed in a 'domestic dispute' after the agreement and the maximum sentence for the offense is deemed to be 10 years prior to the agreement. After the agreement all sentences were agreed to be cut in half. A man got 4 1/2 years for the cold blooded knifing of my sister and that to me is just with a slap on the wrist!

I'm not condoning the ridiculously light sentence he got, but 50% remission as applied in the north has nothing to do with the GFA.