All Ireland Scór 2009

[cornafean]

I propose that they create a website dedicated to scor which would acknowledge the county, provincial and All-Ireland champions every year! 

The Cork Scór Committee have put together a fantastic Scór website which beats the socks off anything ever produced (either on the web or in print) by the Scór authorities at national level. It is a treasure trove of Scór information from all over the country. (and it somehow manages to have on its headline banner, a photo of a Cornafean Scór na nOg novelty act from Killeshandra hall in the mid-1980s !!!)

http://www.scorchorcai.com/

What can you expect with a president whose county does not (has it ever?) take part in Scór? 

It wouldn't bother me if the GAA President was from the moon, but the fact that Nickey Brennan has attended only one out of four All Ireland Scór Sinsir finals since he was elected as Uachtaran Tofa says more about his commitment to Scór than anything else. 

[downgirl]

Nicky Brennan was at the AI Scór na nÓg final in Athlone there and one of the first things he did was gave out about the special 125 years of the GAA Late Late and how it didn't include anything to do with scór, he said that apparently there were meant to be some scór representatives but at the last moment it was cancelled and out of his control or something like that...can't remember exactly now.  It's probably on the dvd if anyone has it.  He was obviously just talking for show though, and probably only cus Jarlath Burns was there so he felt he had to say something.

Corn, who presented the medals at the other 3 finals he didn't attend???!!!

[cornafean]

Corn, who presented the medals at the other 3 finals he didn't attend???!!!

Sean Kelly in 2005 (the day after Nickey's election) & 2006 (the evening of the GAA Congress 2 miles away in the Great Southern Hotel). Christy Cooney last year.

[corn02]

The majority of people in the higher level in the GAA won't be at the Scór All Ireland tomorrow fortnight. They will be at the GAA Congress in Cork.

I think that this is just pathetic altogether; how could the GAA even take credit for scor whenever "The majority of people in the higher level in the GAA" wont even attend the most important date in the scor calendar? This is unbelieveable; scor is becoming a complete seperate event altogether, yet the grab all are lining their own pockets from it and wont even attend the All-Ireland! Have to say Carol that I totally agree with everything you've said, you really hit the nail in the head there; why charge more and have so many empty seats? It would seem just logic that the grab all charged less and actually filled the venue; that way Corn02 or whatever you're called, they could keep funding clubs and also allow people who have an interest in scor, to attend the event. Moreover, I think that if the All-Ireland scor was to be held up North, competitors in the south would be able to take advantage of the euro exchange rate and get more value for there money and this would be more practical and facilitative towards Northern fans attending the event.

Have to agree that the efforts made in some counties in the North are brilliant and they have to be acknowledged. I know in Tyrone and Armagh, the standard is very high and there is always a good turn out for the events. Similarly in Down, there are 5 rounds before the County final and particularly in South Down, the venues are always packed! I think however, that this should be the case throughout Ireland. If someone win's an All-Ireland medal in any of the Gaelic games, they are plastered over the national papers and the net which I believe should be the case! However with scor it is much different! The GAA in all seriousness, does have to make a greater effort for the promotion of scor; I propose that they create a website dedicated to scor which would acknowledge the county, provincial and All-Ireland champions every year!
[/quote]

Wow what a stiupid post again.

You have an argument in there somewhere but you stary so far off it's crazy.

Firstly, you call them the grab all again. I'll ask you again have you any statistics supporting this. I said they had invested 52 million last year which would prove contary, but I await your figures with hope.

You know my username is Corn 02, in fact you typed it. Why did you need to say or whatever you're called. If you wish to be ignorant in this debate that is your perogative.

You think it should be held up north so that shoppers can take advantage of the rate, The travel/overnight stay shouldnt come into account no? A centralised location should be the venue every year. Is there not a big, new complex in Athlone.

[gaa_phil]

Sorry Seamus Heaney but the fact that they spent 500,000 euro on a firework display is baffling since they always complain how much in debt croke park still is? Also, how much does it cost to send county footballers away on holidays before the season begins? I dont know the exact figures but could some more funding not be put into promotion of the All-ireland scor? Again, as I have said, scor is becoming an almost seperate entity and has very little to do with the GAA! Yes it may be true that they fund 52M euro into clubs etc. but the All-Ireland final of scor demonstrates that this is at the expense of many vulnerable members of society! For example, my cousin has an ulster title in scor this year, it is going to cost her family an absolute fortune to take her husband (who is currently out of work) and children to Kilarney for the Weekend and these extortionate ticket prices are going to prevent her from sharing her success with the rest of her family! You are completely ignorant to the fact that there are so many empty seats every year and that this could be avoided if ticket prices were lowered; that way, with a full venue the grab all would get as much money!

[downgirl]

Senior Scór final is always in Killarney, somewhere more central would be a far better idea.

[carol6]

It has been in Killarney for the past 4 years but it was held in Castlebar a few years ago. The problem is finding somewhere suitable elsewhere with a decent stage, changing rooms etc but I feel the idea of expecting everyone in the country to drive the whole way to Killarney four years in a row is more than unreasonable. Would it be similarly unfair to our friends in Munster to expect them to travel to Belfast four years in a row for the All Ireland Final if it was to be held in The Waterfront Hall ?. The answer is to find a compromise somewhere in the middle. I felt that when Croke Park was being redeveloped that The GAA authorities should have made provision somewhere on the site for a theatre where the scor finals could have been staged. It could also have been used to host congress, ard comhairle meetings, competition launches, press releases and other cultural events. Maybe we could ask our Sports Minister here in the north to consider an integrated theatre with his new stadium and ask our southern brothers to join us up here while the Euro is still strong? They could have a wonderful weekend of cultural enlightenment and do some cheap shopping at the same time?

[Mike Sheehy]

Keep ye're puke dancing out of Kerry !

[carol6]

Keep ye're puke dancing out of Kerry !

I admit there are times when I find the Kerry dialect hard to follow in conversation or when listening to Wishie on the radio but now I am struggling with the written word.
"ye're"?? What tribal area of the region does that particular phrase come from?

As for dancing, the Kerry crowd will only come in for the sets in the scor, negotiate a cheaper deal on entry and then leave. True followers and upholders of all that is good and praiseworthy in Gaelic games and Irish culture

Keep up the good work Mike, we all need a laugh now and again.

[cornafean]

The problem is finding somewhere suitable elsewhere with a decent stage, changing rooms

This is the issue in a nutshell. The TF Royal in Castlebar was the venue in 2004. It was not suitable as it was too small, so small that competitors were not allowed enter the hall itself and had to watch the remainder of the show on close-circuit TV in adjacent rooms. The members of my own club's quiz team, who took part that day, could not get into the hall to see their fellow clubman take part in the Recitation.
In this day and age, this was not acceptable way to treat competitors.  Imagine the fuss if the Tyrone minors were shunted out of Croke Park after the minor final last year and had to watch their senior counterparts play Kerry on TV!

For all its faults distance-wise at least the INEC in Killarney provides ample space for everyone and decent facilities for competitors.

I'm not aware of a venue in Athlone that can accommodate 1,500-2,000 people. The Athlone IT hall is already too small for Scór na nOg finals, let alone Scór Sinsir.

I felt that when Croke Park was being redeveloped that The GAA authorities should have made provision somewhere on the site for a theatre where the scor finals could have been staged. It could also have been used to host congress, ard comhairle meetings, competition launches, press releases and other cultural events.

Indeed. In retrospect, this was a huge mistake on the part of the people who otherwise did such a fantastic job in designing Croke Park. Apart altogether from Scór it would have been a huge moneyspinner from concerts etc.

[corn02]

Sorry Seamus Heaney but the fact that they spent 500,000 euro on a firework display is baffling since they always complain how much in debt croke park still is? Also, how much does it cost to send county footballers away on holidays before the season begins? I dont know the exact figures but could some more funding not be put into promotion of the All-ireland scor? Again, as I have said, scor is becoming an almost seperate entity and has very little to do with the GAA! Yes it may be true that they fund 52M euro into clubs etc. but the All-Ireland final of scor demonstrates that this is at the expense of many vulnerable members of society! For example, my cousin has an ulster title in scor this year, it is going to cost her family an absolute fortune to take her husband (who is currently out of work) and children to Kilarney for the Weekend and these extortionate ticket prices are going to prevent her from sharing her success with the rest of her family! You are completely ignorant to the fact that there are so many empty seats every year and that this could be avoided if ticket prices were lowered; that way, with a full venue the grab all would get as much money!

And, amazingly, you stock goes lower as you fail to show any knowledge in your post once again.

When have they complained about how much debt they are in? The fireworks display was paid for by increasing the price of the Tyrone Dublin tickets by a few euro. People were happy to pay, did not cost the GAA a dime and everyone, except yourself, agreed it was a great success.

Likewise, the GAA does not pay for counties to go on training weeks, or holdiays as you have so wrongly named them, the counties do. It is an added expense at the descretion of the county. Would you be happy if a club refused to pay for live music to accompany sets/ceile in scor when a tape could be used?

You say I am ignorant to the prices. I am not, I have already said they are too high. Well maybe not too high, but there should be concessions. 22 euro for a night of such high entertainment is good value. If you want the GAA to take a more direct input in maybe they should corellate them with the All Ireland football/hurling final prices?


Ah and of course, once again you say grab all and once again, for the third time now, I will ask for figures to back this up.

[cornafean]

Corn02,

I don't think there's any point in engaging with this guy. He's only here a wet week or two and he's already trying to drag this discussion into the gutter. Typical WUM if you ask me.

[corn02]

Corn02,

I don't think there's any point in engaging with this guy. He's only here a wet week or two and he's already trying to drag this discussion into the gutter. Typical WUM if you ask me.

Yeah true.

More fool me for biting.

[downgirl]

IT Athlone was small enough for scór na nóg alright, and on the ticket prices sure tickets for that were €20.  I dunno how many it holds, round about the 1000 mark maybe?  Any word on when the scór na nóg final will be shown on RTE? 

The scór sinsear final should alternate between each province, there's bound to be one hall in each province that would adequately hold the audiences and competitors??

[cornafean]

The scór sinsear final should alternate between each province, there's bound to be one hall in each province that would adequately hold the audiences and competitors??

Unfortunately there isn't one such hall in each province. End of.