Colm "Gooch" Cooper - Eye Injury

[Hardy]

an important facet of my role on this board is ensuring the integrity of the apostrophe.

Hey! That's my job.

[saffron sam2]

an important facet of my role on this board is ensuring the integrity of the apostrophe.

Hey! That's my job.

In fairness, there is a hardcore of four or five who appear to be dedicated to that cause.

You beat me to the punchline in the Random Past-times thread, ye bollix.

[Main Street]

'if true' being the operative words.
Though, go ahead and be conditionally outraged.

Why or how could anyone make such an unthinkable incident up? Were you at that game yourself MS & would you mind explaining the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment?

I don't know your motives. Anybody can state the unthinkable at any time. Therefore you were simply asked (twice?) to name the game in question, can't be that difficult can it?
So far you have refused to do so.
If you don't understand the drip drip revelations comment then just ignore it, some things are not meant to be taken verbatim.

[Main Street]

So what you are now saying (or appear to be saying) is that it is impossible for anyone (including any referee) to interpret intent. Unless the transgressor tells him.

You are surmising again.
For the umpteenth time, I look at the evidence and see what the evidence indicates to me.

And yet BCB, who is relatively rational and played a bit at a reasonable level has also questioned the second contact.

And so what? is that most people?
You came to my attention because of your claim that it should be brought to the attention of the CCCC,
IMO beyond absurdity.

Scummy is the wrong word, but it certainly looks bad. I would like to see it in real time though.

Irony passes you by.

[Croí na hÉireann]

'if true' being the operative words.
Though, go ahead and be conditionally outraged.

Why or how could anyone make such an unthinkable incident up? Were you at that game yourself MS & would you mind explaining the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment?

I don't know your motives. Anybody can state the unthinkable at any time. Therefore you were simply asked (twice?) to name the game in question, can't be that difficult can it?
So far you have refused to do so.
If you don't understand the drip drip revelations comment then just ignore it, some things are not meant to be taken verbatim.

Well if you bothered to look you'll see that I did indeed name the game, there was only the one league game between Monaghan and Westmeath in 08, do you want/need the time and date as well???

So the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment was just waffle with no meaning or logic behind it, a strange comment if ever there was one...

So were u at the game and care to comment on the incident instead of tiptoeing around it???

[mountainboii]

So the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment was just waffle with no meaning or logic behind it, a strange comment if ever there was one...

http://www.cinews.co.uk/article.php?artid=6988

Maybe?

[Croí na hÉireann]

So the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment was just waffle with no meaning or logic behind it, a strange comment if ever there was one...

http://www.cinews.co.uk/article.php?artid=6988

Maybe?

Ah, so I guess that's what being discussed on the Sean Brady thread in general discussion and people are conspiring to kill the church or something on these lines? Only make time for the threads of interest these days, thanks for the heads up AFS.

[saffron sam2]

So what you are now saying (or appear to be saying) is that it is impossible for anyone (including any referee) to interpret intent. Unless the transgressor tells him.

You are surmising again.
For the umpteenth time, I look at the evidence and see what the evidence indicates to me.

And what is the evidence telling you?

And yet BCB, who is relatively rational and played a bit at a reasonable level has also questioned the second contact.

And so what? is that most people?
You came to my attention because of your claim that it should be brought to the attention of the CCCC,
IMO beyond absurdity.

Using this thread as a starting point, four of the five who have bothered to pass comment felt the second contact was deliberate. But you keep kidding yourself if you want.

Referring it to the CCCCC is not beyond absurdity when you see some of the incidents that have been referred and I gave the example of Martin Penrose. IMO there is little difference between the two incidents; one was referred, one wasn't. Why not? I'll ask Padraig Duffy.

Scummy is the wrong word, but it certainly looks bad. I would like to see it in real time though.

Irony passes you by.

It does indeed. Next you'll be telling me that you've been winding me up all along. 

[Main Street]

'if true' being the operative words.
Though, go ahead and be conditionally outraged.

Why or how could anyone make such an unthinkable incident up? Were you at that game yourself MS & would you mind explaining the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment?

I don't know your motives. Anybody can state the unthinkable at any time. Therefore you were simply asked (twice?) to name the game in question, can't be that difficult can it?
So far you have refused to do so.
If you don't understand the drip drip revelations comment then just ignore it, some things are not meant to be taken verbatim.

Well if you bothered to look you'll see that I did indeed name the game, there was only the one league game between Monaghan and Westmeath in 08, do you want/need the time and date as well???

So the "you are conspiring to kill the GAA" comment was just waffle with no meaning or logic behind it, a strange comment if ever there was one...

So were u at the game and care to comment on the incident instead of tiptoeing around it???

Sorry, I missed that post completely.
I only saw the highlights on tv.
I can imagine Dessie Mone gets up peoples noses (apostrophe absent alert) and interfering with treatment on the pitch in a niggly way is just not on.
If that is "the worst act I've ever witnessed on any field of play anywhere" then you have a strange criteria.

[Main Street]

So what you are now saying (or appear to be saying) is that it is impossible for anyone (including any referee) to interpret intent. Unless the transgressor tells him.

You are surmising again.
For the umpteenth time, I look at the evidence and see what the evidence indicates to me.

And what is the evidence telling you?

It doesn't tell me anything and I am not a mind reader.
I have already stated what it doesn't tell me.
The action doesn't indicate intent or contact.
I have already demonstrated a clear example of both.
And FWIW, Cooper did connect, did intend to connect and got away with it on the pitch and IMO that's where it should end.
That is a crystal clear clear example of intent and contact.
Contact alone is a lesser charge  and contact with intent is a more serious charge.
Neither of the 2 charges apply to Hughes hand movements.
That's what the evidence tells me.

[Croí na hÉireann]

If that is "the worst act I've ever witnessed on any field of play anywhere" then you have a strange criteria.

Ah for most contentious incidents, the ball is there or someone reacts in the heat of the moment or the ref makes a wrong call, etc. it's all part of the game. But to interfere with a professional giving medical treatment is a major no no in my book, hell even in war the medic is afforded respect by both sides...

[Main Street]

You have downgraded it already to a major (scummy?) breach of the ethical code of conduct, if noted by the ref could possibly be interpreted as provocative behaviour punishable by a yellow card.

[Croí na hÉireann]

You have downgraded it already to a major (scummy?) breach of the ethical code of conduct, if noted by the ref could possibly be interpreted as provocative behaviour punishable by a yellow card.

I would classify it in the same category as interfering with a match official, which usually carries at least a one year ban, yellow card my arse...