Official Cavan GAA Thread

Started by BallyhaiseMan, November 10, 2006, 01:47:12 PM

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put-it-up

Cavan Gaels - Kingscourt
Ballyhaise - Drumlane
Shannon Gaels - Shercock

And if your man applies for the Senior Job, I will prob wet my trousers laughing!
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PhilsJemmysField

Dark Horses

Senior Darkhorse:   Belturbet with a couple of the new lads they have they may finally catch the gaels

Intermediate Darkhourse:  Kill Big man is playing out of his skin at midfield last few weeks and they have 2 scoring forwards starting winning games outside the home patch in the league as well

Junior Darkhorse: none as 3 teams come out of the group then it will be between Shannon Gaels, Swad and Shercock plus one at the quater finals so winner to come out of these 3

put-it-up

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The Konica

That 'could' be a very good appointment.

I'd like to see a structure put in place though if he does come in so you're not left in the same position as this year and no Cavan man 'trained up' or no one from Cavan as an understudy to him.

There's a whole load of other things but that's one reservation....

Blue06

The only negative I can think re McGrath is that he is part of Sportstracker and he
recommended Tommy Carr to our CB last time round. :-\

beer baron

Quote from: Blue06 on July 21, 2010, 11:50:55 AM
The only negative I can think re McGrath is that he is part of Sportstracker and he
recommended Tommy Carr to our CB last time round. :-\

Could've been all part of his evil plan to get the job 2 years later  :P

Denn Forever

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

The Konica

Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
What do you mean 'could'?

I think Pete would command respect and as he coached an u21 side to an AI Final recently it shows he is still in touch with the modern game. Also agree that the 'next' Cavan manager if you like could learn an awful lot from being in the set-up, while managing say the u21's or even minors at the same time.

The key for me, no matter who is appointed, is that the candidate is not interested in the position for financial gain. You would hope he is interested in the job because he wants to be in IC management and he wants a challenge.

If they want money it has to be earned. Alternatively do the lotto  ;D
(I'm not judging Pete, I think he himself won't be the problem if there is one)

'Could'....
Well what I mean is there's two ways to appoint a good manager ... the right way and the wrong way!

Right way -
Put a good structure around him, provide him with support, ask him what he needs, get him to direct the county's affairs, not just manage senior players, get his advice on the U21's, planning structure etc.
Make sure he's accountable to the County Board, make sure he is supported by the CB. etc. Even through tough times.
Make sure there is a succession plan - who is learning from him - Brady? Graham? Hyland?

Wrong way -
Meet him. Discuss Finance. Appoint him. Milk the Media plaudits. Wash your hands of him.

boojangles

Quote from: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
What do you mean 'could'?

I think Pete would command respect and as he coached an u21 side to an AI Final recently it shows he is still in touch with the modern game. Also agree that the 'next' Cavan manager if you like could learn an awful lot from being in the set-up, while managing say the u21's or even minors at the same time.

The key for me, no matter who is appointed, is that the candidate is not interested in the position for financial gain. You would hope he is interested in the job because he wants to be in IC management and he wants a challenge.

If they want money it has to be earned. Alternatively do the lotto  ;D
(I'm not judging Pete, I think he himself won't be the problem if there is one)

'Could'....
Well what I mean is there's two ways to appoint a good manager ... the right way and the wrong way!

Right way -
Put a good structure around him, provide him with support, ask him what he needs, get him to direct the county's affairs, not just manage senior players, get his advice on the U21's, planning structure etc.
Make sure he's accountable to the County Board, make sure he is supported by the CB. etc. Even through tough times.
Make sure there is a succession plan - who is learning from him - Brady? Graham? Hyland?

Wrong way -
Meet him. Discuss Finance. Appoint him. Milk the Media plaudits. Wash your hands of him.

Konica I'm not sure where you'v come out of or if your even from Cavan but I have to say you've brought some excellent points and debate to the thread of late with the above post being an example.
Keep it up and lets just hope some people in power are on the same wave length as you.

The Konica

Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2010, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
What do you mean 'could'?

I think Pete would command respect and as he coached an u21 side to an AI Final recently it shows he is still in touch with the modern game. Also agree that the 'next' Cavan manager if you like could learn an awful lot from being in the set-up, while managing say the u21's or even minors at the same time.

The key for me, no matter who is appointed, is that the candidate is not interested in the position for financial gain. You would hope he is interested in the job because he wants to be in IC management and he wants a challenge.

If they want money it has to be earned. Alternatively do the lotto  ;D
(I'm not judging Pete, I think he himself won't be the problem if there is one)

'Could'....
Well what I mean is there's two ways to appoint a good manager ... the right way and the wrong way!

Right way -
Put a good structure around him, provide him with support, ask him what he needs, get him to direct the county's affairs, not just manage senior players, get his advice on the U21's, planning structure etc.
Make sure he's accountable to the County Board, make sure he is supported by the CB. etc. Even through tough times.
Make sure there is a succession plan - who is learning from him - Brady? Graham? Hyland?

Wrong way -
Meet him. Discuss Finance. Appoint him. Milk the Media plaudits. Wash your hands of him.

Konica I'm not sure where you'v come out of or if your even from Cavan but I have to say you've brought some excellent points and debate to the thread of late with the above post being an example.
Keep it up and lets just hope some people in power are on the same wave length as you.

Thank you Boojangles ... much appreciated.
I would hope that Cavan County Board are forward thinking, but we will wait and see.

Perhaps I should throw my name in the hat?!
:)



The Konica

Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 04:59:46 PM

Sure if the groundsman from Breffni sees fit to then you are certainly entitled to! Are you a Cavan Man? I sense some Breffni blood in there ;D

You lost me there PIU?

The Konica

Ha ha ... really? Wow! Any one can go for it then!

Sadly only about 1/4 Blue Blooded ... but I know a little about the Breffini County workings, having watched Cavan for years now.
Of course you can't tell the tale of Ulster football without understanding the role of Cavan in the GAA until the 50's.

I just think it's about time you made a return to the top teir and challenged for the USFC again, but you as a county have lost your way, have been by-passed and forgotten how to win and I'm just throwing out a few pointers in case someone of influence is reading and it helps or sparks an idea for them.

It's nothing other than that and I sincerely hope you don't take offense at my comments, me not being a Cavan man!

The Konica

Well I'll wait for the advert and dust off an old CV for the County Board and see what they say.


beer baron

Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.

Swadman

I heard on "da wireless" (NOT Northern Sound) that Jim McGuiness is a shoe-in for the Donegal job and Pete McGrath is indeed a front runner for Breffni