It Must be Marching Season

[marty34]

Breandán Mac Cionnaith was saying outside the court today that there might be another legal avenue that could be tried. He hinted at something else but didn't go any further.
 

Didn't seem it was a GR residents based approach. Seemed to hint at some other avenue.


Anybody know what that would be about?

[Eamonnca1]

No need for the equestrian jokes; plenty of legitimate criticisms of Lockhart are available.

She's probably trying to pull a Trimble. Make a name for herself at Drumcree and spend the accrued political capital going for party leadership.

[Eamonnca1]

The events of the last week have proven that the PC's ruling that there'd be "no disorder" if the parade went ahead is a load of nonsense. I'd be very surprised if any court upheld it.

Plus the application has expired and the jaffas will have to resubmit.

Some of the backwoodsmen in Portadown have been fantasising about the fenians being forcibly removed and violently arrested to facilitate the parade, but there doesn't seem to be enough appetite in the PSNI for the chaos that would flow from that. Seems like they've learned their lesson from the 1990s. They can dream about water cannon, plastic bullets, and live ammunition all they want. It's not going to happen.

As for the sanctimonious unionists hoping to see MON prosecuted for blocking the road, I couldn't see that going far. The ECHR is still in effect, Brexit or no Brexit, and it upholds the right to hold a spontaneous protest.

Bryson's about to realise that his mouth has been writing cheques that his brain can't cash. I'd love to say this will be the end of him and he's on his way back to political obscurity, but I suspect he's a bit of an unflushable. He'll probably have a crack at stirring the sh1t at some other flashpoint like the Lower Ormeau Rd.

[AustinPowers]

I think even the OO are  hoping the courts cancel this. Because the SoS and PSNI won't  be .

The PSNI have done irreparable damage to themselves and  made their own job nearly  impossible going forward.

The only  way out for them is to jail  all the nationalist politicians who stood on the Garvaghy Road.  I doubt that will happen  though.

[Windmill abu]

The court cases and appeals are a distraction. This all boils down to whether the Orange order can force a march through a Nationalist area. That day has gone and any manipulation of the legal/policing/political systems to allow it only go to show the sectarian bias built into this corrupt state.

[NAG1]

The events of the last week have proven that the PC's ruling that there'd be "no disorder" if the parade went ahead is a load of nonsense. I'd be very surprised if any court upheld it.

Plus the application has expired and the jaffas will have to resubmit.

Some of the backwoodsmen in Portadown have been fantasising about the fenians being forcibly removed and violently arrested to facilitate the parade, but there doesn't seem to be enough appetite in the PSNI for the chaos that would flow from that. Seems like they've learned their lesson from the 1990s. They can dream about water cannon, plastic bullets, and live ammunition all they want. It's not going to happen.

As for the sanctimonious unionists hoping to see MON prosecuted for blocking the road, I couldn't see that going far. The ECHR is still in effect, Brexit or no Brexit, and it upholds the right to hold a spontaneous protest.

Bryson's about to realise that his mouth has been writing cheques that his brain can't cash. I'd love to say this will be the end of him and he's on his way back to political obscurity, but I suspect he's a bit of an unflushable. He'll probably have a crack at stirring the sh1t at some other flashpoint like the Lower Ormeau Rd.

Yeah I've a feeling we are stuck with him for the foreseeable. Only thing is he had no strategic thinking and walks everyone he works with up a blind alley with no way out.

He is still dangerous though because he is being platformed.

[screenexile]

Does the legal case matter though? The Garvaghy residents didn't adhere to the initial ruling why would the OO do be any different if the ruling changes?

It'll just be the OO marching up to the police lines and being told they can't come down the road.

[nrico2006]

Does the legal case matter though? The Garvaghy residents didn't adhere to the initial ruling why would the OO do be any different if the ruling changes?

It'll just be the OO marching up to the police lines and being told they can't come down the road.

Was thinking the same regarding the court hearing yesterday. Surely you cant have GR residents using a court ruling in their favour as the basis of their argument considering they ignored it when it went against them.

[Armamike]

The OO etc have been very vocal about taking the high ground on the rule of law.  It would mean them contradicting themselves if they didn't accept a new legal ruling. 

[Armagh18]

The OO etc have been very vocal about taking the high ground on the rule of law.  It would mean them contradicting themselves if they didn't accept a new legal ruling. 

Unionism famously never contradicts itself

[Tony Baloney]

The OO etc have been very vocal about taking the high ground on the rule of law.  It would mean them contradicting themselves if they didn't accept a new legal ruling. 

They would say that if Michelle O'Neill and the Garvaghy Residents weren't prepared to obey the determination and rule of law why should the OO. It's an easy argument for them.

[trueblue1234]

The OO's problem with that is that it would take violence to get down the Garvaghy Road. It didn't take violence to stop the parade. Once the PSNI weren't going to force the Fenians off the road, the GRRG knew they could just sit it out and that the status quo was in their favour, as in, without PSNI interference they were getting their way.
If the OO do what the GRRG have done, I.e. peaceful protests. Then they're just back to where they were a few months ago. Walking down to be turned away by the police on a weekly basis. They can keep doing it for another 28 years. Wasting time, money and effort. As before, the rest of the world will move on and forget about their protest while they waste every Sunday morning for the foreseeable.

[Snapchap]

Micheal Martin's cynical response to the Garvaghy Rd story has been so bitterly grounded in attacking SF that he's received praise support from Jamie f**king Bryson. Two columns today both going in hard on him over his attitude. Aoife Moore's is particularly good:

[red hander]

No need for the equestrian jokes; plenty of legitimate criticisms of Lockhart are available.

She's probably trying to pull a Trimble. Make a name for herself at Drumcree and spend the accrued political capital going for party leadership.

Agree. Although it's hard to have any sympathy for a bigot who described the residents as 'a rabble' and wants the PSNI to batter them off the road, just like the 'good old days', we should put the focus on her inner ugliness only.

[NAG1]

No need for the equestrian jokes; plenty of legitimate criticisms of Lockhart are available.

She's probably trying to pull a Trimble. Make a name for herself at Drumcree and spend the accrued political capital going for party leadership.

Agree. Although it's hard to have any sympathy for a bigot who described the residents as 'a rabble' and wants the PSNI to batter them off the road, just like the 'good old days', we should put the focus on her inner ugliness only.

She is an open goal for her views and her actions. By going for her appearance only lessens any argument against her and gives her capital to use.