Nations League

[weareros]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

The Irish U-17 that qualified for World Cup were still hammered 1-3 in qualifying by NI with Céadach O'Neill running the show. And despite that game in 2024, an Irish senior manager had still not seen O'Neill play two years later. Its all well and good saying LOI is higher standard but that is only because LOI plays summer football and players are in peak condition when they meet Irish League teams in Europe competition. And watching Israel game (a crap team), save for Troy and Kelleher, the standard of player we are producing is abysmal.

[SaffronSports]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

Burst out laughing at Josh Magennis.

[trileacman]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

The IFA can say the same. 90% of their current squad came through NI underage teams. You can throw in all the unrelated remarks you want about Loi clubs v IL clubs or Ronnie Whelan playing Loi back in 1982, it doesn't change the fact that your suggestion about ROI youth development being a load of bollox.

[trileacman]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

The Irish U-17 that qualified for World Cup were still hammered 1-3 in qualifying by NI with Céadach O'Neill running the show. And despite that game in 2024, an Irish senior manager had still not seen O'Neill play two years later. Its all well and good saying LOI is higher standard but that is only because LOI plays summer football and players are in peak condition when they meet Irish League teams in Europe competition. And watching Israel game (a crap team), save for Troy and Kelleher, the standard of player we are producing is abysmal.

If the FAI youth development was really all that then they'd surely have developed a half decent midfielder by now. A one legged Glenn Whelan would get a run out for this current Irish side.

Collins, O'Shea, Egan and O'Brien are decent CB options to be fair.

Loi teams are better than their IL counterparts and have been for some time because the league is bigger and there's more money floating about for wages. That's not surprising. But at international level ROI and Ni are operating at roughly the same level for the past 10 years, largely because NI exceed expectations and the ROI massively underperforms given the level they used to be at.

[Armagh18]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

It's like 2 bald men fighting over a comb ffs.

[nrico2006]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

Jennings played in the IL, albeit not the top division.

You could throw in Gareth McAuley, Niall McGinn, Stuart Dallas and Trai Hume. If you wanted to go further back, you could add Michael Hughes, Peter McParland and Danny Blanchflower to the list too.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

Jennings played in the IL, albeit not the top division.

You could throw in Gareth McAuley, Niall McGinn, Stuart Dallas and Trai Hume. If you wanted to go further back, you could add Michael Hughes, Peter McParland and Danny Blanchflower to the list too.

If Trai Hume is your example...

[Milltown Row2]

I don't know how you can suggest Ballard or Charles are inferior to that ROI are fielding. Fulham spent 30 million on Charles, a figure none of the ROI midfield have commanded for a transfer. Ballard is a starter for a mid table PL side, much the same as O'Shea and Egan.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, your point was that the FAI has a better youth development than the IFA which if you look at both squads and where they're playing isn't correct.

Saying that the FAI are light years ahead in youth development is just complete bollox, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

O'Shea and Egan, a  Dub and a Corkman.

Ballard and Charles are from Manachester.

Your examples.

And what? Your point was that the FAI are light years ahead in terms of development, that's a load of bollox.

The best NI players are all English. Your list.

The best Irish players are Irish. They learned to play in Ireland.

Keane, McGrath, Moran, McClean, Staunton, Coleman, Whelan, Long, Doyle, Beglin, Ferguson all started in the LoI.

What's the IL list?

Neill Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Josh Magennis, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy all started in the IL.

Besides going back 45 years to when Ronnie whelan, Staunton and McGrath kicked a ball in the LOI doesn't back up anything you've said about the FAI's youth development.

But you can go back 60 years to Jennings, who didn't play IL by the way...

You can huff and puff all you like. The FAI have had some hand in developing most of the current Irish team. The IFA can't say the same.

LoI clubs are miles ahead of IL clubs.

Ireland underage are ranked miles ahead of NI teams.

This isn't a serious debate

It's like 2 bald men fighting over a comb ffs.

Was scanning to see if someone would post this and well done Armagh18

[Milltown Row2]

The Georgians must think this is a home game for them at Windsor, with the flegs being the same